DirectX9 vs DirectX10 *again*

[swaaye]

I wonder if a DS3D to OpenAL wrapper is possible. There's already a OpenAL to DS3D wrapper, for the zillions of chips that don't bother with a native OpenAL driver.

 

[DizDoz]

The FlightSimulator X DX10 screenshot is a Photoshop created by Microsoft marketing depicting what they think fsX will look like in DX10.

Two, the water in fsX is very good. That picture one of you posted was a alpha shot and it looks far better in the retail version.

Even Everquest 2 has better water than that (if you set the options right), and it doesn't even use more than DX8-level shaders.

True, but if you try the retail version it's far better than EQ2.

No, it really doesn't matter. Drawing reasonably-good water with reflections and bump mapping doesn't take much work at all, particularly in the context of a flight sim where there is very little to draw anyway.

FlightSimulator X is more demanding than ALL current games out there in graphics, although it dosn't always look better.

 

[DizDoz]

Heres a shot of REAL retail fsX water taken by me:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1841/20061027211119875eg9.jpg

 

[ripping]

Heres a shot of REAL retail fsX water taken by me:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1841/20061027211119875eg9.jpg

OMG thatz so dam wettttt1!ELEVEN the other waters are suxxors!



Hello by the way.

 

[Geo]

You *registered* for that? Well, I suppose I'll let you live anyway. This time. But, y'know, don't do it again for the next, oh, 100 posts or so.

 

[Ateo]

You *registered* for that? Well, I suppose I'll let you live anyway. This time. But, y'know, don't do it again for the next, oh, 100 posts or so.

Do what?
Register?

 

[ripping]

You *registered* for that? Well, I suppose I'll let you live anyway. This time. But, y'know, don't do it again for the next, oh, 100 posts or so.

Thanks, Chuck.

 

[Kaotik]

Regarding the FSX water shot posted above, yes, that's the real DX9 water, however, we don't yet know how the DX10 water will look like, if any different, since the DX10 support will come shortly after Vista release as a patch according to MS(?)

 

[Rodéric]

Regarding the FSX water shot posted above, yes, that's the real DX9 water, however, we don't yet know how the DX10 water will look like, if any different, since the DX10 support will come shortly after Vista release as a patch according to MS(?)

DX versions don't change the rendering effects, only the devs can do that.

 

[Kaotik]

DX versions don't change the rendering effects, only the devs can do that.

Yes, I do know that, but since the (photoshop)artists did paint the fancy pics of how it would look like, one can except the devs to create new water shaders (and others) to go along the D3D10 patch.

 

[KimB]

I don't see why.

 

[DizDoz]

Microsoft is releasing an update for fsX which will convert the game to DX10. I must say again that the Direct X 10 fsX images are FAKE.

 

[Kaotik]

Microsoft is releasing an update for fsX which will convert the game to DX10. I must say again that the Direct X 10 fsX images are FAKE.

fake, as in, made by artists, yes, but fake, as in, not by microsoft.. weren't it first spotted as photo from some MS presentation?

 

[Colourless]

I wonder if a DS3D to OpenAL wrapper is possible. There's already a OpenAL to DS3D wrapper, for the zillions of chips that don't bother with a native OpenAL driver.

There's an Interview with a guy from Creative on VE3D which sort of hints that Creative might be thinking of doing such a thing.

So that we can continue to support gamers that use and enjoy our products and are planning to migrate to Vista, we are studying the feasibility of a translation scheme that would provide all of the benefits of Sound Blaster audio with legacy titles. I look forward to sharing more details on that with you in the near future. Our overall objective remains, as it always has, to provide an outstanding audio experience for you, the gamers.

 

[Ateo]

Here is what Creative thinks of the topic:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=Vista&message.id=1694

Game Audio Issues

This results in bugs such as loss of EAX functionality in games to complete incompatibility, depending on how the game title was authored and how well the Microsoft DirectSound emulation code works. In addition, given this model any and all bugs that are exclusive to DirectSound games could not possibly be due to Creative audio drivers or any other IHV (Independent Hardware Vendors) audio drivers.

It also contains a nice explanation of the difference between the soundsystem in XP and Vista.