DirectX Next - Longhorn only !?

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  1. anaqer

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    Seems like we're using the word "speculation" with different meanings.... to me it's something like THIS (1,2,4).
    Speculation can become a fact ONLY after it has been proven through real-world examination.
     
  2. Bjorn

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    Why not ? It was a very interesting read imo.
     
  3. Geeforcer

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    May I suggest you get real instead? Fact: the notes were included in the power point. Fact: a news story along the lines: "A recent ATI presentation containing the following notes" would contain ZERO speculation. Fact: I never suggested that any website publishing/not publishing this is trying to help/hurt ATI.
     
  4. Lezmaka

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    I just looked over the headlines for the past year or so and never saw one thing like "OMG!!!1! Leaked ATI powerpoint tells people nvidia suxors!"

    I seem to remember some slides of other presentations that were available from various people on the net, but I don't recall a headline about it here.

    B3D is a professionally run site that doesn't seem to cater to the lowest common denominator by posting news and articles just to make some noise, especially when they have very little effect (which I believe this falls into).

    B3D isn't a tabloid. It'd be similar to USA Today or another national newspaper running a story about a candid photographer taking a grainy, somewhat unfocused picture of a topless celebrity. The tabloid would print it on the cover to get as many people to buy as possible. USA Today (or other national newspaper) might not even report on it at all because they feel it has no real value. If they think it has some value, they may put it on page 12 in the Entertainment section.

    B3D has front page headlines and forums could be considered the rest of the newspaper. For this site, I think that's where this story belongs. For a site like The Inq, [H], etc I would expect a post on their main news page.
     
  5. Bjorn

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    I seem to remember that the Nvidia document was in the headlines/news here. But i might be wrong. Anyway, you could of course say something other then the "Nvidia suxors" headline that you mention.

    F.e like Geeforcer suggested

     
  6. John Reynolds

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    I don't remember if the Kyro pdf was put on the front page as news, but it doesn't matter since B3D had a different EIC back then.
     
  7. Evildeus

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    Yes i was more in the wonder than in the speculation i suppose :/ But well, you need conjecture and hypothesis (speculation ;)) to prove a fact, and everything must be true.

    The fact is there's a paper, and that quotes exist and state something that is new (hense the news). And a news doesn't need to have a definite answer, at least till for the time being.

    But well, i suppose it's up to the newsmaker to decide what to do, and it's up to me to think that it's important or not.
     
  8. Lezmaka

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    What I'm saying is that no matter what headline you put with the info, I still think it's just a way for sites to get more visitors by being, in a way, sensationalistic (is that a word? lol). They post things that they think fit in with how they want to run the website. If they don't post a news story, then they may have not seen it as a big enough deal to post, or fit in with the way they run the site.

    Personally, I don't see how this leaked presentation would fit in with the news stories that have been posted over the last year or so. True, there are some interesting things written in the notes, but while reading the thread, I've seen several totally different interpretations of the same sentence/slide.

    I just don't see B3D posting a news story about an IHV out-right attacking or even subtly attacking another. If one company sued the other for the attack or some other reason, I would be surprised not to see a story about something like that. But not something like a leaked presentation that has a few comments about how to help present info, and something that to me, doesn't mean that much overall.
     
  9. Bjorn

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    That you can interpret things differently doesn't make it less interesting imo. But i think that we just have to disagree about the "news worthiness" of this document and leave it at that.
     
  10. rashly

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    sorry to be a bit OT, but where did nvidia reccommend to developers to not use dynamic branching in excess because of how "expensive" it was?
     
  11. Evildeus

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    Seems like Fuad comes sometimes over here. Hey DB how does it feel to be on the Inq? 8) :lol:
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15106
     
  12. John Reynolds

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    :twisted:
     
  13. digitalwanderer

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    Uhm, source? (And are you trying to give me a hint? :| )
     
  14. Evildeus

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    Mine ;)
     
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    DOH!!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

    Ever just have one of them mornings? Ever have it happen on April Fool's Day when you are just NOT in the mood for it?

    :(

    I'm gonna go hide, kick me if anything really exciting happens. :oops:
     
  16. MfA

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    If all you could get out of the comments was "NVIDIA sucks" I see a bigger problem with your reading than the comments themselves.
     
  17. Pete

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    That was one of the best Inq posts/editorials I've read. Dave is right, Paul does seem to be on the money.

    No obvious mistakes, either! /me looks in Fuad's direction :p
     
  18. Dave Glue

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    More accurately phrased:

    "Hey DB, how does it feel that the Inquirer is finally crediting its fucking source for a change!?"
     
  19. Colourless

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    April fools? :D
     
  20. Quitch

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    Usual tabloid headline though :)

    Can't say I was overally impressed, there's a lot of opinion foisted on the reader as fact.

    My bet is Doom III *won't* have PS3.0 support... just a hunch ;)
     
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