leoneazzurro
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Drivers are not the same for the nvidia cards however: 8800 GS was tested with 169.23, 9600 GT with 171.16. Framebuffer differences could also affect some tests.
D9P/G94: 9600 GT on 19th of February
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And just a quick tally of results versus HD3850 256MiB at 1600x1200. The only game which seemed truly VRAM limited at that resolution is CoJ.
As for future SKUs and chips, I guess it's pretty simple: scale all the numbers by exactly 75% for the 9600 GS, and by exactly 50% for the 9500 GT, barring triangle setup, input assembly or PCIe/CPU bottlenecks. That and some other things obviously make it a weak approximation at best, but heh.
Not too shabby, although hardly mind-blowing given the die size either. I'd be curious to see a comparison between the 9600GT and the HD3870 with AA & AF at 1280x1024, since that should be a common setting for a ~150 euros GPU.
As for future SKUs and chips, I guess it's pretty simple: scale all the numbers by exactly 75% for the 9600 GS, and by exactly 50% for the 9500 GT, barring triangle setup, input assembly or PCIe/CPU bottlenecks. That and some other things obviously make it a weak approximation at best, but heh.
vertex_shader
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Thats not good, won't support most third party coolers, maybe thermalright HR03 R600 version is good, but thats cost a 1/3 of the whole card price
vertex_shader
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HD3850 price drop can come.
vertex_shader
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Hmm, so is 9600GS 3 clusters with 192bit memory, and 9500GT 2 clusters with 128bit memory (well at least the 128bit memory for 9500GT seems confirmed)???
vertex_shader
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More information.
Release date february 24th, core size 15.6mm x 14.8mm, 230.88mm².
Release date february 24th, core size 15.6mm x 14.8mm, 230.88mm².
Anyone think there's a chance an AIB partner might decide to produce a variant of 9600 GT without a PCI-e power connector? The reasons I ask are two-fold:
1) I started using my 42" 1080P tv as my primary PC monitor and would like to game on it, but my X1650 XT isn't quite up to the task with newer games. I can still run Source games @ native res on highest settings, but I'd like to play more than just Source games ya know?
2) I have an OEM system and the PSU lacks a PCI-e connector, nor do I have any spare molex connectors to adapt to a PCI-e connector. My X1650 XT was the fastest card I could find that draws all its power from the PCI-e slot.
1) I started using my 42" 1080P tv as my primary PC monitor and would like to game on it, but my X1650 XT isn't quite up to the task with newer games. I can still run Source games @ native res on highest settings, but I'd like to play more than just Source games ya know?
2) I have an OEM system and the PSU lacks a PCI-e connector, nor do I have any spare molex connectors to adapt to a PCI-e connector. My X1650 XT was the fastest card I could find that draws all its power from the PCI-e slot.
Heh, that sucks. Aren't there cables that convert 1 molex to 2 molexes though? Anyhow, I doubt there'll be any 9600GT without a provision for >75W, but maybe my hypothetical 9600GS... (3 clusters/12 ROPs)
My PSU doesn't have enough spare Molex connectors to adapt two of them to a PCI-e connector.
EasyRaider
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Many cards (peaking at less than 100 W) come with adapters which will only plug into one molex.
HD 3850 fits that description. I'm not sure about the OCed ones, though.
HD 3850 fits that description. I'm not sure about the OCed ones, though.
Sound_Card
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Yep, or the HD 3690.
That's good to know. I'll have to look at some 3850's and see which ones come with the single Molex adapter.
Thanks guys!
DeadlyNinja
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Holy crap, are you my twin? Your situation and card is exactly the same as mine! The reason I have a X1650 XT is because it doesn't require you to hook up to the PSU. My X1650 XT is a silent one too.
I originally bought a 7900GS for my rig, but my 320W PSU wasn't enough to power it. At least that's what I think. It was kind of unstable. Some times when I turn on my computer, it runs fine, some times I get a warning message saying not enough power is powering the card. I quickly took out and returned it.
Unlike ShaidarHaran, I do have plenty of spare plenty of spare wires in my computer, but it really wasn't going to do me any good since it couldn't power the card anyway. Although I suspect that it could be that the wires aren't plugged in tightly enough. Cause some times I didn't have any problems running the 7900GS. I don't know if it's just me, but the wires were just BARELY long enough to connect with each other.
Do you guys think there'll be 9600GT or 3850 that are just PCI-E powered in the future? Or you think I should get a bigger PSU? My rig honestly doesn't have much in there other than a video card. And goddammit those wires were short. I swear, to this day, I still suspect the tight reach of the wires that caused the problems.
I would seriously replace your PSU... here's a good one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151032
BTW, just because the PSU is rated for higher power doesn't mean you use more at the outlet. So I'm not sure why the disinterest in just getting a bigger one.
I like FSP Group PSUs as the non-expensive-super-high-power-high-efficiency option. Fairly cheap, no-bling, quiet 120mm fan, run cool, and they seem to last (have worked with several 400 and 450s for nearly a year now.) I also discovered that my OCZ Gamexstream 600W is made by them. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104037
I like FSP Group PSUs as the non-expensive-super-high-power-high-efficiency option. Fairly cheap, no-bling, quiet 120mm fan, run cool, and they seem to last (have worked with several 400 and 450s for nearly a year now.) I also discovered that my OCZ Gamexstream 600W is made by them. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104037
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FSP PSUs suck at higher wattages. They ripple like there's no tomorrow. The 500W Blue Storm II is OK though. The higher rated epsilons(600, 700, 1010 and whatever else) suck a big plate of ass though.
In a way, you do. Many higher rated PSUs aren't as efficient at 150-200 watts(Which is the average system usage, I believe) as they are at 400 watts.
Sometimes it's a matter of only 3%, sometimes it's 15. Depends on how high the wattage rating is, and the overall quality of the PSU. I highly doubt a 1300 watt PSU will perform too well at 178(random number pulled out of my ass) watts...
In the end, it's best not to overshoot yourself by more than 200 watts, or thoroughly research the PSU you're looking at.