D9P/G94: 9600 GT on 19th of February
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I definitely have no complaints about the OCZ 600W Gamexstream (FSP Epsilon apparently), other than the ball bearing fan getting louder after about a year now. It's certainly been reliable and solid in my fairly power-sucking rig (overclocked Q6600+8800GTX+3 HDDs). I did some warranty-voiding to replace the fan a few days ago with something less worn-ball-bearingly loud and noticed that it has some rather diminutive heatsinks inside (afforded by the high speed 2500RPM 120mm, no doubt). I love risking life and limb inside of electronic components with giant caps! Was disappointing to find the mini-heatsinks...
Here's an interesting forum post about it: (I assume you heard this from Johnny Guru)
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25678
Hmmmmm!
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=24
(as the thread sails off to a new land!)
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That PSU I linked to has been proven to run a GeForce 8800 GTS 320 with ease. I'll look for the link later, I'm about to pass out. Damn you, prescription medication! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!
DeadlyNinja
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I honestly thought 600W means it draws 600w from the socket thinking it's a regular piece electrical appliance. I'm guessing the 600w power rating means that's the highest it'll be able to out put, but doesn't mean that's how much it draws from the socket by default, huh?
One thing though. I researched the X1650 XT power draw VS the 7900 GS and the 7900 GS draw LESS power than the X1650 XT! My X1650 XT doesn't have any issues with power, and it draws power straight from my PCI-E slot. This is why I'm confused with just how these things draw power from the computer.
Well, that's OK. In all fairness, the scenarios where ripple becomes relevant aren't likely to be achieved with the system being considered. But I have a hard time cutting the FSP stuff slack now that you've got Corsair's VX and TX line of PSUs out. So yes, the HXs were expensive, but the above mentioned ones are champs and are competitively priced(so go and support Corsair, maybe they'll afford to put pumps that don't rumble like they were summoning a sandworm of Dune whilst operating, in the WCing setups
).And I'm sure this has a bearing on the 9600GT...it definitely must
.Perhaps there was just something wrong with the 7900GS? It's a possibility.... And no, a 600W doesn't pull 600W full-time.
My OCZ 600W actually uses a little less at idle than the 485W it replaced (a rather efficient Enermax Noisetaker it was, too). It just depends on how efficient the PSU is at the load range it'll be used for. Look at JohnnyGuru, Tech Report, Silent PC Review, or Anandtech for some good reviews.
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Silent_Buddha
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Well, that's OK. In all fairness, the scenarios where ripple becomes relevant aren't likely to be achieved with the system being considered. But I have a hard time cutting the FSP stuff slack now that you've got Corsair's VX and TX line of PSUs out. So yes, the HXs were expensive, but the above mentioned ones are champs and are competitively priced(so go and support Corsair, maybe they'll afford to put pumps that don't rumble like they were summoning a sandworm of Dune whilst operating, in the WCing setups
And I'm sure this has a bearing on the 9600GT...it definitely must
It also depends on when you got the FSP Epsilon's. I heard that somewhere around last summer FSP changed some components on the Epsilons that they sell with their own brand and that ripple got quite bad at higher loads. Prior to that however, there was no ripple to be found on the Epsilon's. Luckily mine is one of those.
Also "rebranded" FSP PSUs made for other companies (OCZ for example) are spec'd by the company that orders them. So assuming OCZ knows what they are doing, they could still spec their re-branded Epsilons with the older components unless those are no longer available for FSP to buy.
I believe Thermaltake has also sourced some PSU's from FSP. As well as a few other "name" brands.
And to a poster above. A PSU only draws as much energy as it uses + a bit more (depending on how efficient the PSU is) that is lost in the circuitry of the PSU itself.
So while I have a workstation here with a 1 kw PSU, it's generally drawing less than 200 watts from the socket when most of the 8 - 1 TB HD's is powered down. And that's considering that workstation/server class PSUs are NOT even remotely efficient as they are first and foremost designed with reliable 24/7 power delivery. Sucker weighs about 2-3x as much as my Epsilon 700 watter which itself isn't that light.
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A somewhat confusing report from OCworkbench says that 9600 GT will "kick 8800 GT's ass":
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=426467#post426467
Question:
How can a GPU with only 64 scalar processors clocked at 1750MHz kick another GPU of the same -supposedly...- technological generation (8800 GT) that has 112 sp's at 1500MHz, even if the base clock goes from 600 to 700 MHz, and the memory goes slightly up to 2000MHz (from 1800MHz on the 8800 GT) ?
Something smells fishy here... Who's right then ?
I thought the general agreement by now was that the 9600 GT is on par with the Geforce 8800 GS, while two of them in SLI are closer to a single 8800 Ultra.
GeForce 9600GT to be launch on 21 Feb 08, GPU-Z screen shot
GeForce 9600GT GPU-Z screen shot shows some of the information about this upcoming product. The 9600GT is scheduled to be launched on 21 Feb 2008.
It is said that the performance of the 9600GT will kick 8800GT's ass. This GPU has a default GPU/Mem/Shader clock of 700/1000/1750. It can be overclocked to 849/1044/2002. The GPU has 64 shader processors and has a 256 bits memory bus.
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=426467#post426467
Question:
How can a GPU with only 64 scalar processors clocked at 1750MHz kick another GPU of the same -supposedly...- technological generation (8800 GT) that has 112 sp's at 1500MHz, even if the base clock goes from 600 to 700 MHz, and the memory goes slightly up to 2000MHz (from 1800MHz on the 8800 GT) ?
Something smells fishy here... Who's right then ?
I thought the general agreement by now was that the 9600 GT is on par with the Geforce 8800 GS, while two of them in SLI are closer to a single 8800 Ultra.
:sigh: clearly they meant 8600 GT. It would take a MASSIVE overclock for the 9600 GT to be faster than the 8800 GT. There's no magic sauce in the 9600 GT.
That makes sense, thanks.
Then again, the direct predecessor was the 8600 GTS, not the 8600 GT, right ?
Now with the 9500 GT going with 128bit and 32 scalar processors (the G96 looks like a cheaper, smaller version of the G84 -Geforce 8600 GT/GTS- core), it's even more of an oddity to see the G98 core actually "cutting" half of its sp's, to only 8 (16 on the G86/"old" 8400 GS).
There's too big of a gap between G98, G96 and G94, unless there are more Geforce 9xxx derived from both cores on the way...
(Edit:Agreed) I don't think it's meant to be faster. It will probably perform between 60%-80 as fast as the 8800gt. (Im not sure about how fast it will be) Taking into account the faster core, memory and shaders (Even though there are fewer of them.) They aren't going to release a cheaper 8800GT just yet, unless they absolutely have to.
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Pretty sure G98 still will have 16 shader units - though some products based on it may not... A G98 with 8 shader units is not going to be competitive with a HD3450, yet alone a HD3470.
Blazkowicz
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G98 seems really meant to be crappy, focusing on video and vista's Aero. probably they want to sell MCP78 IGP and provide a very low end card that doesn't really compete with it, but is an option for non-IGP motherboards or as a second card, and for hybrid SLI/multiple outputs scenarios.
9500GT is the high performance low end, replacing 8500GT. I'm not sure why something is needed inbetween. (yes calling 8500GT high performance is a bit of a stretch but a friend with a 17" CRT has it and treats it as a high end card with the game he plays - source engine, strategy games, etc.)
9500GT is the high performance low end, replacing 8500GT. I'm not sure why something is needed inbetween. (yes calling 8500GT high performance is a bit of a stretch but a friend with a 17" CRT has it and treats it as a high end card with the game he plays - source engine, strategy games, etc.)
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=234811
Can be configured single OR dual slot with 256/512/1024MB of DDR2/DDR3 memory.