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@dlm: why is magic broken? I play as pure caster, doing no weapons at all, no armor...just using mana, some fancy items I found (do the mage gilde quest for instance, you get the gear of the archmage, find the mask of krosis, do the gauldurs amulett quest...once you have those things, mana regen is increased by over 200%. now use the right character development to decrease the cost of your spells...use fireball spell (it has the best balance with respect to mana usage and damage!) increase fire damage and all this fancy stuff...find some good staffs...et voila, you are a unstopple destroyer mage :mrgreen:
I am currently at level 22, and sabertooth tigers are my only fear as of now...no joke! ;-)
Meanwhile I encounter Blooddragons, which are a bit stronger than the standard Dragons, but still no challenge...

The problem is that if you don't go straight to the mages guild (which I didn't) and thus don't have insanely high regen or whatever, the rate at which your enemies get stupidly powerful relative to you is completely out of balance.

At level 12, it would take me 5+ dual-cast fireballs to down a Bandit Thug, yet even with 200 magicka, my mana would only hold out for about 4 (and yes, this was with the 50% mana perk). At that point it takes ages to regen and you just have to run around hoping you don't get hit in the meantime because any high-powered enemy could 2-shot me.

When I actually went to do the mages guild quests, I ran in to one of those zombie Overlord things or whatever it was. I basically couldn't touch it and it could 1-shot me with a power attack even at Adept.

I'm sure if you play caster exactly right and have exactly the right gear and spend exactly the right talents and grind like hell for mana pots and deal with the fact that it's a huge pain in the ass it might "Get okay" down the line. I'm not willing to put up with that kind of garbage in a game.



In ended up re-rolling and I'm now playing a thief-type class (light armor, 1-handers and bows) with most of my skill points going in to that and smithing. I also dropped the difficulty down to Adept since combat in this game is enormously more predicated on numbers than skill so difficulty is pointless. I'm now up to level 7, have died maybe once, and I no longer feel like it's a huge chore every time I get in to a fight.
 
The problem is that if you don't go straight to the mages guild (which I didn't) and thus don't have insanely high regen or whatever, the rate at which your enemies get stupidly powerful relative to you is completely out of balance.

At level 12, it would take me 5+ dual-cast fireballs to down a Bandit Thug, yet even with 200 magicka, my mana would only hold out for about 4 (and yes, this was with the 50% mana perk). At that point it takes ages to regen and you just have to run around hoping you don't get hit in the meantime because any high-powered enemy could 2-shot me.

When I actually went to do the mages guild quests, I ran in to one of those zombie Overlord things or whatever it was. I basically couldn't touch it and it could 1-shot me with a power attack even at Adept.

I'm sure if you play caster exactly right and have exactly the right gear and spend exactly the right talents and grind like hell for mana pots and deal with the fact that it's a huge pain in the ass it might "Get okay" down the line. I'm not willing to put up with that kind of garbage in a game.



In ended up re-rolling and I'm now playing a thief-type class (light armor, 1-handers and bows) with most of my skill points going in to that and smithing. I also dropped the difficulty down to Adept since combat in this game is enormously more predicated on numbers than skill so difficulty is pointless. I'm now up to level 7, have died maybe once, and I no longer feel like it's a huge chore every time I get in to a fight.

yeah you are right...it is a little bit more difficult than other classes...but as far as I have experienced in such games...mage are always underpowerd imo, at least how I play them :D

I remember in Oblivion that after 20hours gaming I was at the point to give up, as I did not have any chance at all with my darkelf mage...then I got a vampire...and it turned out that it did not only made me strong as hell, but also rather sexy ;-)

I admit that as a mage you don't feel super strong during the game (which is due to the fact that I do not wear any armor...just robes to increase my magic stats, so no defense)...I feel ultra powerful as an attacker, but I like a little baby doll when I get hit (so I spend most of the time during battle to avoind close combat brawls...hence, the fast sabertooth cats are bastards) ...at the moment I have over 400 mana, but only 150 health, combined with no armor...I typically stand 1-2 hard blows...means I need to use magic shield and defense and health regen all the time!

meanwhile, I entered the dark brotherhood quest...will see how this turns out!

I also encountered a quest where I got prisoned (no other chance) and had to do some fights without my gear...it was super difficult without the mana regen items...so I can understand where dlm is coming from!

oh, and then I got a quest...with full of spiders everywhere....."go away, go away, leave me alone, dont show me your legs...uuuh...dont show me your ugly eyes...uhhh...well, I need the enchanted bunny spell for this one....thanks god I am a caster and that I dont have to touch those things" :D

now I am at level 26, with destruction at over 80...wonder how I get those master destruction spells and how the are?!?! At the moment, I still use the fireball as my main spell...as it seems most efficient (the expert spells do more damage, but cost relatively to much mana and don't have this area damage imo). Does anyone know how to get the master destroyer spells...does it just take time until I can by them from Faralda?
 
I'm primarily two handed melee, but with some magic. It does help sometimes for healing and range attacks. It does start very weak though, and the limited mana pool sure doesn't help but it does get better. Still though I'll stick to melee, I find it more satisfying to watch my girl knock down enemies with one blow. I don't really believe in stealth in these types of games personally, since I'd rather eliminate all enemies I come across rather than evade them.

The beauty of the stealth in Bethesda games is how you still get to eliminate everyone. A 15x damage multiplicator for a back stab using a a dagger is pretty impressive. You can one-shot Giants this way. It also works beautifully in tandem with both the single handed weapon and light armor skill, so you can still tank it out in case your sneaking approach fails.
 
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I haven't followed this topic at all and just found this game by coincidence. Is it worth buying? I know IGN gave it a pretty good score, but I really haven't played any (western) RPGs for a long time. The last one that I played (and loved) are the Baulders Gate games on the PS2 (by Snowblind) which I thought were great - though clearly they are more hack'n slash RPG.

Sooo, my question is - would this be something for me? From the screens and videos I can tell it's from the first-person rather than 3rd-person view (which I'm not sure if I like or not), but I guess if the game is good, there's nothing wrong about it. Would love to get into a good RPG and be sucked into a huge gaming-world with lots of character development, upgrading and the adventuring of course. This being the 5 part - is there something I need to know about the previous 4 games, or is it something I can get into without any problems at all? Or is there a different game that is perhaps better suited than this one?

Thanks in advance!
 
you can switch 3rd person, but it's way more involved than BGDA. We're talking picking up inventory, finding you're carrying too much and having to sort out what to drop (annoyingly inventory is in alphabetical list form, where for things like dumping excess weight you'd rather sort by weight), having free movement around the terrain. So it's a very different experience, and a like of BGDA doesn't point to any affinity for this game or not.

It's more like Mass Effect or Borderlands in a fantasy world. Can you think of any RPG-like first-person games you've played this gen? Mentioning them would perhaps give a better idea of whether you'll take to this or not. I can't think of any similar games with demos that you could try.
 
I play it in third person almost exclusively. Works just fine that way. Animation wise it looks a wee bit wonky, especially if you are coming straight from Uncharted 3 (where the protagonist has probably more idle animations than every npc and creature in Skyrim has total animations combined, but it's really no worse than in most other third person games)

Knowledge of prior Elder Scrolls games isn't neccessary. While it's certainly nice to know who Tiber Septim and The Blades were, the game has a public library worth of background information if you really want to dig deep. It's also not really a direct sequel. I believe it takes place some 200 years past the events of the last game.

Either way, get that game. It's not only intimidating in scope (just like past Elder Scrolls games were), the content is also of surprisingly high quality (quite unlike past Elder Scrolls games)
 
I recently helped a good friend get started and they really seemed to help him out so I figured I'd share with anyone who's just starting the game.


  • After Riverwood, head to Whiterun to progress main story's quests chain until the Jarl honors you. Then join either The College of Winterhold if you're a Mage, The Companions in Whiterun if you're a Fighter or The Theives Guild in Riften if you're an Assassin/Theif and run through the entire quest chain. Completing any of these yield valuable loot, items and abilites that you'll use for the rest of your playthrough.

  • Talk to every Innkeeper about rumors. They always have a quest to give you, and some start particularly great quest.

  • Once you're done with your first guild, just do whatever you feel. However don't fast travel, use a carriage or even ride a horse. It sounds nuts I know but doing any of these cuts the opportunity of serendipitous discovery. There is SO MUCH content sprinkled throughout Skyrim and doing any of those forfeits the opportunity of exploration and discovery. Even a horse, at least I found, just gets in the way. It's just easier to run around, beside the horses in Skyrim are way too aggressive and get in the way.

  • At some point you absolutely HAVE to do ALL of the Daedric quests.

  • If you're interested in getting wealthy then get good at lockpicking, sneaking and pickpocketing and head to the very rich city of Solitude.

  • I think everyone should invest in Enchanting very early on because once you reach 100 you can enchant an item with two abilities. Leveling Enchanting quickly is actually not difficult either. Just use soul gems (sold or found all over the world). Just purchase some empty soul gems and head out questing with Soul Trap in hand. CAst the spell, kill enemies and fill the gems up. Until you’re level 100, just use crappy items and the smallest soul gems. Plus, if you have the money, the trainers at the College are a REALLY great source too.

    Oh and one more thing, anything you double-enchant will sell for A LOT more!

  • If you’re running through the wilderness and you see an icon resembling a dragon on your compass--check it out. Listen matey, there be dragons ahead! Well actually its just one dragon, but there will also be a new Shout to learn as well. PLUS a treasure chest with some awesome loot.

  • Keep in mind Magic skills only gain experience if an enemy is around, even restoration spells

  • If you have a ton of stuff to sell, I found the Blacksmith (two vendors) and general goods guy in Whiterun to be the most efficient way of selling things quickly. Though the vendors have a finite amount of money, just waiting for 48 hours will repleish their pool. This is how I got rid of 600lbs of dragon bones and scales.

  • There are only two people in the world who will buy stolen stuff (Winterhold/Riften), however if you get your speech skill high enough any vendor will buy stolen goods.

  • Last and most importantly, explore the world as you please. These are mere suggesting, and Skyrim is probably the most adaptive worlds every created so you can't go wrong. Whatever direction you decide to go at the crossroads, you're guaranteed to have a great time.
 
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I recently helped a good friend get started and they really seemed to help him out so I figured I'd share with anyone who's just starting the game.


  • After Riverwood, head to Whiterun to progress main story's quests chain until the Jarl honors you. Then join either The College of Winterhold if you're a Mage, The Companions in Whiterun if you're a Fighter or The Theives Guild in Riften if you're an Assassin/Theif and run through the entire quest chain. Completing any of these yield valuable loot, items and abilites that you'll use for the rest of your playthrough.

  • Talk to every Innkeeper about rumors. They always have a quest to give you, and some start particularly great quest.

  • Once you're done with your first guild, just do whatever you feel. However don't fast travel, use a carriage or even ride a horse. It sounds nuts I know but doing any of these cuts the opportunity of serendipitous discovery. There is SO MUCH content sprinkled throughout Skyrim and doing any of those forfeits the opportunity of exploration and discovery. Even a horse, at least I found, just gets in the way. It's just easier to run around, beside the horses in Skyrim are way too aggressive and get in the way.


  • If you're interested in getting wealthy then get good at lockpicking, sneaking and pickpocketing and head to the very rich city of Solitude.

  • I think everyone should invest in Enchanting very early on because once you reach 100 you can enchant an item with two abilities. Leveling Enchanting quickly is actually not difficult either. Just use soul gems (sold or found all over the world). Just purchase some empty soul gems and head out questing with Soul Trap in hand. CAst the spell, kill enemies and fill the gems up. Until you’re level 100, just use crappy items and the smallest soul gems. Plus, if you have the money, the trainers at the College are a REALLY great source too.

    Oh and one more thing, anything you double-enchant will sell for A LOT more!

  • If you’re running through the wilderness and you see an icon resembling a dragon on your compass--check it out. Listen matey, there be dragons ahead! Well actually its just one dragon, but there will also be a new Shout to learn as well. PLUS a treasure chest with some awesome loot.

  • Keep in mind Magic skills only gain experience if an enemy is around, even restoration spells

  • If you have a ton of stuff to sell, I found the Blacksmith (two vendors) and general goods guy in Whiterun to be the most efficient way of selling things quickly. Though the vendors have a finite amount of money, just waiting for 48 hours will repleish their pool. This is how I got rid of 600lbs of dragon bones and scales.

  • There are only two people in the world who will buy stolen stuff (Winterhold/Riften), however if you get your speech skill high enough any vendor will buy stolen goods.

  • Last and most importantly, explore the world as you please. These are mere suggesting, and Skyrim is probably the most adaptive worlds every created so you can't go wrong. Whatever direction you decide to go at the crossroads, you're guaranteed to have a great time.

restoration spell works also when no enemy is around! for instance: use the spell BALANCE in one hand, and a healing spell in the other hand...you can pretty easily level up your restoration...at any place you want, although it is rather boring this way...
 
Bethesda are working on a patch which will be published soon, apparently.

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I hope they fix the texture bug on the 360. For those who play with the game installed in the Xbox 360 HDD, it's recommended you to unistall the game and play off the disc.

Some reliable people told me the difference is enormous, abysmal, in terms of textures.


On a different note, as a token, some pics of a book a fan of the series has made based on the books you could read in Oblivion and its lore. He printed all the Oblivion in-game books and handbound it in leather. Skyrim has new books, I think.

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I haven't followed this topic at all and just found this game by coincidence. Is it worth buying? I know IGN gave it a pretty good score, but I really haven't played any (western) RPGs for a long time. The last one that I played (and loved) are the Baulders Gate games on the PS2 (by Snowblind) which I thought were great - though clearly they are more hack'n slash RPG.

Sooo, my question is - would this be something for me? From the screens and videos I can tell it's from the first-person rather than 3rd-person view (which I'm not sure if I like or not), but I guess if the game is good, there's nothing wrong about it. Would love to get into a good RPG and be sucked into a huge gaming-world with lots of character development, upgrading and the adventuring of course. This being the 5 part - is there something I need to know about the previous 4 games, or is it something I can get into without any problems at all? Or is there a different game that is perhaps better suited than this one?

Thanks in advance!
Even if you don't know much about the series, the game, Tamriel etc -like me when I started with Morrowind in 2005-, as you mention, you don't need to know anything at all to enjoy the game -there are a lot of books in the game with references to the previous TES games, afaik-, and I think you may like it. I tried to describe what kind of game it is in previous posts, so it might help to give you a good start in regards to what you will find in the game.

I've seen the game at an acquantiance's house, PS3 version. Listening to the original soundtrack and the atmosphere my balls dropped on the ground, snowing and at night.. oh my... Also at some point I saw some ants walking across the trunk of a tree. Fortunately, it was relatively short and mostly spoiler free, but I liked it.

Skyrim is the province where the nords reside. I've observed, taking into account some of the things I could grasp from conversations, the nords are seen in a good light, as locals, which is pretty normal in The Elder Scrolls games. I "fear" for my first character, a lovely argonian male I am going to create. More on that below.

In Cyrodill, for example, which is the place where Oblivion story takes place, the native people considered the nords as barbarians -I see some similarities between TES lore and ancient history, when greek and romans ruled the world, and nordic tribes (I live and was born in a place invaded and ruled by celts before becoming part of the roman empire) like goths used to be considered barbarian tribes- and dumb, because it's the region where the imperials and bretons live.

And in the south, in the marshes of Blackwood live my beloved argonian race, the dark elves are from Morrowind and the other races I don't remember well already, but I think the high elves are from Sommerset Isle, Khajiit are from Elsweyr, and Redguards are from Hammerfell, the rest, I have no idea. xD

Nords in Skyrim seem to be not so friendly when it's about elves. I remember thinking like then when I played Morrowind. I thought "screw the elves". There haven't been a game I felt so scorned like in Morrowind. There was always a lot of racism between the inhabitants of the Elder Scrolls series.

Good memories... though. "Outlander". They called me outlander basically everywhere. Everyone in Morrowind looking down on you and disapproving of you if you weren't an elf, or directly insulting you or enslaving you. And now in the new version I won't complain, there is similar rejection but maybe not to such extent. My first character in Morrowind was an imperial, because I considered them the best for my tastes after reading the manual; good dialogue and diplomatic. I had a hard time with the outlander thing at first, but it was great, great fun.

All in all, it's a game which will keep you entertained for a long while. You don't need to play it for hours and hours in one sitting, because you can save anywhere. That's the way I played Oblivion and it didn't prevent me from playing it hundreds of hours in total. I stopped playing a few years ago because my console scratched my DVD so badly, when the X360 wasn't the reliable console it is today.

Finally, in short, I think you will enjoy the game Phil. It offers you hours and hours of fun for your money, and the 3rd person camera -a major PITA in previous TES games, especially Morrowind, and to a lesser extent Oblivion- has been improved over previous Bethesda titles.

-Cose
 
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By the way, here is a map of the planet where the Elder Scrolls is set. As you can see, a few of the places -Skyrim, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, have been featured in previous TES games-

Map of Nirn:

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The map is deceptive, though, because it's flat. The whole area of Cyrodiil should be larger than Skyrim, and in the end Skyrim is as large as Cyrodiil. Parts of the world, especially islands, have been used as expansions in previous titles.

A smaller, more detailed map featuring a more specific part of the continent of Tamriel:

Tam-Maps-West_Tamriel.jpg
 
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what I realized yesterday: regarding those greybeard guys where you learn shouting...you can go back to them, and ask them about shouts, and they give you small quest which you can do to find the other shouts! furthermore, some of those quests include those masked mini-bosses...there are a total of 8 mask bosses as far as I know...and they are all extremely mighty, but really worth it because you then get their mask...check it out guys!!!

Lvl 31 pure mage darkelf...slowly going towards 100 destruction (at 91), wonder if I get the master spells when I reach 100?!?!?!

Is it possible to do the stoarmcloak quest and the imperial quest simultaneously? or is this a definitive decision when I join one faction?
 
I really hope Bethesda patches that mess, and fast. My game is completely falling apart at the moment. Doesn't go from perfectly fine to a wee bit too jerky in 3 or four hours anymore (which is bad enough as it is). Instead performance goes from barely acceptable to completely busted within an hour now. It's basically unplayable at the moment.
I'm exceptionally pissed and disappointed with Bethesda now, that much is certain.
 
That's a nice find. Thanks for sharing.

Even so, whoever created that list, there are things they got a bit wrong, in my opinion.

Altmer, yes I can see the resemblance here.

Argonians, lovely lovely amphibians. The reference to mesoamerican cultures looks completely off to me, because their colourful plumes come from birds, not amphibians. I would love to see Argonia in the next TES installment though, with lush jungles, Crysis style but with the personal touch of Bethesda. :love: It would be truly amazing. Mesoamericans are fine to me. I have a weakness for argentinians, though, which are southerners, more than meso.

Bosmer, their choice is fine. I will only add that mesoamericans could be categorized here. I like americans -they are dreamy and "innocent" to me, although the USA is a world in itself, and some politicians like Bush leave a lot to be desired, interfering in some places and matters in a way that makes this world a worse place to live-. I know of some americans. not IRL, who would like to live in Canada -great country and people- because of their politicians.

Bretons. Cool, after my Argonian, my next character will be a Breton. I will think about his background.

Dunmer, nice too. I like japanese culture.

Imperials, I am fine with the resemblance of imperials to Romans -and Greek also-, but not so much packing the British empire and the roman empire as if they were so similar. Despite the fact the British countries one of the most advanced nations in the history of humanity, very influential, and having some of the most amazing inventors, historically wise it was mostly a colonial empire just like the spanish & portuguese empire at some point. Or even the german, french or belgian empire.

I mean, the Romans created not only a culture, but are the parents of romance languages, most of the western culture, and even created a religion. You can see their huge influence in the english language. Maybe english people don't realize but they have a lot of expressions from romance languages.

I.E. if you say, "celestial dawn", the world celestial comes from the word cielo -ceo, etc-. Cielo is sky. If that word didn't exist you would have to say something as "skyial down", which doesn't make sense.

I am not Italian, but I am roman catholic. Romans were pagans and their gods were based on greek mythology, but they converted to catholicism because they found a more structured, ritualized, spiritual experience in catholicism.

One of the first victims of Romans was one of our fore mothers, a 15 year old girl who died when romans were still pagans -Saint Aginia or something like that, can't remember her name know, and I don't know her name in English also-, or Saint Mary Goretti -I know a few women IRL who are called Goretti- :smile: who died when she was 11. They became saints because they were tortured by romans and they found out that it didn't work, and they were amazed at how catholics had structured their religion, and they started to convert because they found it superior to theirs. I am not a priest, but the priest of my parish, a very cultured person -though not very loved here by some people-, told me this when I had a conversation with him this summer. He also told me he had read thousands of books during his life. :oops:

But anyways, before I get off-topic, Imperials resemble me the roman empire more, because they shaped the world in so many ways and are the actual first ancestors of the western culture. The British Empire, in its heyday, reminds me of the Spanish or Portuguese empire, unlike the romans. However, imperials may be well based on the british empire too, because imperial comes from empire. They were my favourite in Morrowind.

Khajiit, well, I think they got it wrong here. They are like amphibians, although in this case just cats. Maybe their clothing is colourful and so on, but it looks to me more like the argonian clothes, both dress in a very colourful manner, like hippies. A misconception americans have is that Gypsies are native of Romania, which isn't true. Gypsies come from Egypt. -Gyp... see the analogy here- :D I remember seeing the Romani and gypsies connection in an episode of Angel -the Buffy TVS spin-off- when they talked about Angel's background, and I was appalled.

Khajiit are like argonians, in my opinion, in the sense that their special skill bonuses are based on the same abilities both species have in nature.

Nords, yes, they are the perfect stereotype as vikings. Close to where I live there was a very famous battle when Vikings tried to conquer these forgotten lands. It's a battle people here commemorate every year, in July. -btw, some names of the months come from roman emperors-.:p

I was a Nord in Oblivion. :)

Orsimer or Orcs, I don't see the resemblace here either. Mongols had an advanced culture, and Gengis Khan was the leader of one of the largest empires in the history of the humanity and was one of the best leaders in the history of humans, too.

If anything, Orcs would be like Huns, especially under the reign of Attila. Attila the Hun terrorized Eurasia in the middle ages -coincidently, the Middle Age began after the fall of the Roman empire, their importance was supreme-, pillaging villages and stuff.

There is a very very famous saying here which says: "You are like the horse of Attila, everywhere you step on the grass doesn't grow".

I still remember the mongolian fable of the blue wolfess and the fallow deer in a game called Age of Empires. I loved the mongol campaign.

Redguards, sounds good to me. I can imagine a new TES taking place in Hammerfell with arabian or middle east motifs. A similar city to Constantinople would be amazing. Back in the middle ages the Persians had a very advanced culture.

I hope the next TES takes place in Argonia. There are islands for expansions -true expansions, not the so called, currently, DLC, which sometimes features the most petty inclusion these days- and there are places with lovely names like Soulrest or Greenglade.
 
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The beauty of the stealth in Bethesda games is how you still get to eliminate everyone. A 15x damage multiplicator for a back stab using a a dagger is pretty impressive. You can one-shot Giants this way. It also works beautifully in tandem with both the single handed weapon and light armor skill, so you can still tank it out in case your sneaking approach fails.

Ah good point, didn't even think of that. I do like to go berzerk with my girl character though, just running into the room slaughtering everyone. Having 5 enemies attacking me at once then secondsd later they are all dead on the floor, quite satisfying.


what I realized yesterday: regarding those greybeard guys where you learn shouting...you can go back to them, and ask them about shouts, and they give you small quest which you can do to find the other shouts! furthermore, some of those quests include those masked mini-bosses...there are a total of 8 mask bosses as far as I know...and they are all extremely mighty, but really worth it because you then get their mask...check it out guys!!!

Hmm didn't know that. I've been just wandering the world clearing out any locations I find and I've found many new shouts this way, I guess I should go back to the old dudes and see what they tell me. One shout gave me a little trouble yesterday night to aquire...the dude guarding it would not only disarm me, but he would condure up multiple instances of himself that would all attack you, but you wouldn't know which one was the real one so you had to attack them all. They would also teleport to different locations in the room which made it a bit of a pain. Ultimately he fell to my blade though.
 
Supposedly installing an SSD into the PS3 fixes all the hitching and stuttering issues with the PS3 version. Well, being the hopelessly impatient idiot which I am, I just ordered one from Amazon. If it doesn't do the trick I'll just put it into my pc, so it's not really a big deal one way or another. Always wanted one anyway.
 
I really hope Bethesda patches that mess, and fast. My game is completely falling apart at the moment. Doesn't go from perfectly fine to a wee bit too jerky in 3 or four hours anymore (which is bad enough as it is). Instead performance goes from barely acceptable to completely busted within an hour now. It's basically unplayable at the moment.
I'm exceptionally pissed and disappointed with Bethesda now, that much is certain.

I hope for them, because I want this game on my ps3. It's really embarassing to see screw so much the 'sony fanbase' from fallout 3 unitl now; why at this point not engaged the same studio who worked to Oblivion indeed this mess, a real & unacceptable shame. Even a bad port it's more playable, it's really ridicolous to release a game in these conditions.
 
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