Cure@PS3 project

Ah ha!

But honestly, Mostly Harmless is the way it should be for Geo. Why mess with a good subscript? :)
 
Well, the referent of the original is the entire population of Earth, so, y'know. . . ;)
 
nice one sony, this also aids in the perception of the ps3 as a computer.
as well as being a good benchmark against pc's
i wonder what will be the result of top intel core2 processor vs ps3
 
Definitely true. Folding proteins picks up where mapping the human genome left off...


Mapping the human genome? What's that? Didn't we find out every single DNA strand possible years ago? Just asking even though I know with protein their a hell of a lot more.
 
Hey Xbd is it true that "folding" proteins (or whatever you guys are talking about) can cure diseases?

Well, it wouldn't cure diseases as such but could provide really great information for development of drugs that are custom made knowing the folding or 3d structure of the protein. That is a big part of the whole thing, trying to find ligands that could bind and modify the structure of protein to either restore its function in case it is mutaded or cause the loss of function of a "bad" protein.

Proteins compared to the DNA are much more unpredictable. A DNA molecule is a DNA molecule, it can be of different sizes or maybe linear and cirkular but that is about it, it is much more easy to predict the behavior of a DNA molecule than a protein. Two proteins could have the same size but have extremely different properties depending on the amino acid composition and folding and that is why you need so much computer power to be able to calculate its folding.

Ohh, and to stay on topic, cool thing to have this runing on the PS3...
 
I have all sorts of problems with this.

First, it's a clash of two politically correct objectives, so who wins? This thing is going to use a lot of energy, and that's not enviromentally correct we're told. Simply no way around it.

Second, distributed computing's heyday is past. Folding, SETI, what did these gain us? Nothing. I'm sure three people will rush to correct me, I'm also sure what they claim these projects have accomplished amounts to very little.

Hell if I recall, at least one of these projects basically closed doors some time ago..
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imagine a xbot (excuse the expression) when he goes to the doctor 10 years from now:

doctor- you wont die tomorrow! with this med you can live forever
xbot- is that cure from sony ps3 results?
doctor- sure is
xbot- eeeew teh lies teh lies!!!! fake cure!! teh cg!! you'r not gameplay!!!!
 
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Is the SETI for PS3 so that we'd be able to play online against Martians?
That would surely increase the PS3 network service installed base immensely!
 
Awesome news.

Apparently it was being demoed at Leipzig (that's why F@H officially announced it), but none of the usual sites have reported on it. Hopefully we'll get more on it over the next couple of days, and more details.
 
Well, it wouldn't cure diseases as such but could provide really great information for development of drugs that are custom made knowing the folding or 3d structure of the protein. That is a big part of the whole thing, trying to find ligands that could bind and modify the structure of protein to either restore its function in case it is mutaded or cause the loss of function of a "bad" protein.

Proteins compared to the DNA are much more unpredictable. A DNA molecule is a DNA molecule, it can be of different sizes or maybe linear and cirkular but that is about it, it is much more easy to predict the behavior of a DNA molecule than a protein. Two proteins could have the same size but have extremely different properties depending on the amino acid composition and folding and that is why you need so much computer power to be able to calculate its folding.
Thanks, I think your description is spot on in layman terms!!! :smile:
 
Overall I'm unimpressed. There's no normal mapping, AA, selfshadowing or DOF. Looks current gen to me :devilish:







:p

Hey Xbd is it true that "folding" proteins (or whatever you guys are talking about) can cure diseases?
They don't cure disease per se. They allow disease to be better understood so cures can be created. It's a line of research that aids the development along with lots of other lines of research.
 
I have all sorts of problems with this.

First, it's a clash of two politically correct objectives, so who wins? This thing is going to use a lot of energy, and that's not enviromentally correct we're told. Simply no way around it.

Second, distributed computing's heyday is past. Folding, SETI, what did these gain us? Nothing. I'm sure three people will rush to correct me, I'm also sure what they claim these projects have accomplished amounts to very little.

Hell if I recall, at least one of these projects basically closed doors some time ago..

Energy used for the good is ok, this could beyond awesome, actually insane computing power in the hands of someone that use it for curing diseases.

Lets call the us army and tell them to switch off any Simulator they may have!
 
Wow Sony has the most potent marketing out there :!:
It's the Saddam Hussein story all over again, but now it's even a good cause and will be perceived as a noble act.
This will be all over the mainstream media.
 
Crazy Ken's distributed computing plans for Cell has actually become a reality. IIRC, one of the Sony slides mentioned new revenue streams such as selling computing power harnessed from the PS network.

I guess that requiring the user to manually start the distributed computing process would result in >1% of users actually contributing CPU power, whereas having the distributed network app integrated into the OS and auto-activating at appropriate times would enable sony to get most PS3s number crunching.
 
Yes, I was thinking that it would probably make for a nice screensaver ... ;) Even in the XMB itself.

I don't think it will all that happily coexist with anything else - no Folding during games, movies or anything like that.
 
I don't think it will all that happily coexist with anything else - no Folding during games, movies or anything like that.

Unless they use that OS reserved SPU :LOL:

It will be interesting to see how it will be exposed and leveraged, though.

Linux app, or native?

If native, bundled with the system or downloadable over PS3's 'Marketplace'?

Something that by default auto-activates on idle or when CPU utilisation is low enough (outside of games) or something the user explicitly turns on?

Hopefully someone at Leipzig will ask these questions.
 
I have all sorts of problems with this.
Wow, you do? Well, good thing then Sony won't do a thing without consulting you first! ;)

First, it's a clash of two politically correct objectives, so who wins? This thing is going to use a lot of energy, and that's not enviromentally correct we're told. Simply no way around it.
Define "a lot of energy".

If you have a 50" plasma TV it's probably going to use 2-3x more power than a PS3 console at maximum load, and a 19" computer CRT monitor is also likely to burn more. A PS3 is roughly equal to 2-3 standard incandescent light bulbs, to put things into perspective.

So 'politically correct' use of power, well which is the better, more correct use of power, 20.000.000 high-wattage light bulbs and neon tubes glowing on the Las Vegas Strip, or a load of PS3s working on basic research for our medical industry to help people be cured from horrible diseases? Check out that Huntington disease for example, it's no fun at all. If you suffered from it, I'm sure you'd be all over this idea.

I don't really understand from where your negativity stems, are you one of those people who feel anything new that's never been attempted before is unneccessary, since we didn't 'need' it before then why do we need it now? Or is it just a blind dislike of Sony and/or the PS3? Besides, what if my PS3 runs on non-greenhouse-causing power? Try to think farther than your own nose please.

Second, distributed computing's heyday is past. Folding, SETI, what did these gain us? Nothing.
SETI's not amounted to a whole lot perhaps, except leading to the development of the Boinc framework for distributed apps, but to say that about folding... Lemme ask you this: what is your evidence for such a statement?

Wow Sony has the most potent marketing out there :!:
It's the Saddam Hussein story all over again, but now it's even a good cause and will be perceived as a noble act.
This isn't a 'noble act'? Wow! You're no easy flirt are you! :LOL:

Seriously man, what is it that makes you feel the need to crap on this idea?
 
Think that maybe one day, your machine would do it's part on developing a new game, or rendering a part of a new Spiderman movies CGI.
I don't think they'll reserve a SPU for distributed computing for the whole time, it's likely you must start the program separately everytime you want to submit your PS3 for some folding, or maybe set a timer so it starts automatically for example daily at 00:00 and when the machine is left idle.
 
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