Some people are speculating that it's a problem with an ARM IC used to do system control - the front panel, RTC, standby, etc. Can anyone confirm that's what the PS3 actually has?
Critical PS3 internal clock error and its aftermath
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Some people are speculating that it's a problem with an ARM IC used to do system control - the front panel, RTC, standby, etc. Can anyone confirm that's what the PS3 actually has?
Add both my machines to the list. 40gb (old) and 80gb (newish). Tried Heavy Rain on each, even with internet disabled and still nothing. Seems silly that not being able to hit the servers for Trophy info even with internet disabled would still prevent me from playing. If someone has NEVER connected to the internet before, this would be causing the same issue? What if they never created a PSN account?
What if you create a new local account on your PS3 and try to play?
I believe I'm correct in thinking purchased downloadable content doesn't require a network connection to validate, ie you can play the content quite happily with your router turned off? So can anybody here explain, or suggest a possible reason why, the wrong date and time would effect software validation. It certainly seems tied in with security somehow which bring up the terrifying possibility that a firmware update wouldn't be validated either.
Oh hey, if true, then ARM is footing/splitting the bill !
MrSpiggott, they could be using an offline verification scheme if a public-private key system is in place. It doesn't require a network connection in that case (but there is still strong security/validation involved). Timestamp would be needed in this case as well.
EDIT: If the ARM speculation is true, something else besides PS3 must be failing right now also.
I opened this topic in the morning but didn't care to read much as I assumed I wasn't affected since I just used it last last night - but after I got home and turned on my Euro-launch 60 GB PS3, sure enough, I got hit as well. 
I seriously hope it's nothing serious.
Hearing that reseting the HW clock is good news, though I'm not sure how keen I am on doing that... Damnit. I was really looking forward to playing a few games tonight.
I seriously hope it's nothing serious.
Hearing that reseting the HW clock is good news, though I'm not sure how keen I am on doing that... Damnit. I was really looking forward to playing a few games tonight.
That's why I'm asking, ARM themselves wouldn't be responsible, it would be whoever made the SOC to handle things like power up, power down, the RTC and maybe based it on a simple ARM core.
I don't know even if the stories are true, I have no clue as to where the RTC on the PS3 is placed.
All I can give you is this (which could probably be total bullshit):
http://boards.ign.com/ps3_general_board/b8267/189826564/p1/
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That's what you get for calling it Fat/Phat.
I left work early today to check on my PS3. I told them I had an urgent matter that I needed to tend to. They asked if my family and I were okay. I said no, I may have PS3 at home that's very sick. They gave me a weird look for a minute there, but the crazed look in my eyes probably told them I was serious. I rushed home to find my PS3 crying in a corner. I asked him what was wrong and he said he saw all of the people on forums calling him Fat and the new ones Slim (that's what I get for leaving the browser open when I left). I told him that those new PS3s were slim because they had their balls cut off. He smiled a little. I then asked "surely you don't want that, do you?" He said no and reluctantly stopped sobbing. "What about this clock problem I'm having now because of all the name calling?", he asked. I told him not to worry about it, and that by tomorrow morning he would remember that he's a real man. So, I created a new local profile and copied over my WKC save game, and we both went on with our day.
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By the way, as expected, I can access the Playstaiton Store from any local account that hasn't signed up for a PSN account. Just can't download anything as that requires an actual PSN account (it prompts you to sign-up if you try).
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Ha ha, I will turn on my office PS3 after GMT 0:00 March 2nd to see if that conjecture holds any water.
I only saw london-boy and one other guy online on my friends list this morning.
I showed my wife the Heavy Rain demo.
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What happens if you set the clock manually and try to sign on to PSN ?
I only saw london-boy and one other guy online on my friends list this morning.
I showed my wife the Heavy Rain demo.
EDIT:
What happens if you set the clock manually and try to sign on to PSN ?
Trophies were made via firmware right? So trophy enable games get stuck and forces you to quit. Perhaps Sony can release a new firmware to change this feature to allow offline games to be played without sync. Then they can change the rules of how they want to operate the trophies and online. They can also change network security features to allow these users to get access to PSN. If the wrong date is the sole reason not being able to access the store, then they can change it.
Firmware updates may or may not be able to fix a system glitch but the PS3 still turns on fine. Firmware however can change/trick the OS to do what it wants.
Firmware updates may or may not be able to fix a system glitch but the PS3 still turns on fine. Firmware however can change/trick the OS to do what it wants.
Maybe I'm misunderstainding you, but isn't that how it already works? I can play offline and collect trophies, and they'll only be sync'd when I connect to PSN and choose to synchronise them. At the moment it seems unclear to me whether the problem is due to going online/PSN, or is inherent to switching the PS3 on. If the former, as long as I don't log in I'm safe, which is all I need know for tomorrow.