could Gamecube end up 2nd place for last-gen ?

[Megadrive1988]

Xbox1 consoles are no longer being made.

are Gamecube consoles still being manufactured?

what are the current stats for Xbox1 vs Gamecube worldwide marketshare?

could the release of Zelda Twilight Princess on Gamecube this fall push Gamecube into the #2 position worldwide for last gen?

 

[Guden Oden]

Interesting theory, but there's a couple million units between the cube and the box that the former's unlikely to take in on the latter at this late stage methinks. Those who want a cube have bought one already most every one of them I'd think.

Perhaps if zelda had been released a year ago it could have mattered more. Now it'll sell almost exclusively to existing owners is my guess.

 

[Megadrive1988]

however, Gamecube costs $99 (or in some cases discounted further) while Wii will cost $199~$249.

the "entry fee" to play Twilight Princess is much lower on Gamecube if you don't own either console.

it might spark Gamecube sales a bit. maybe enough to catch up and surpass Xbox1, maybe not, we'll see.

 

[Powderkeg]

Xbox1 consoles are no longer being made.

are Gamecube consoles still being manufactured?

what are the current stats for Xbox1 vs Gamecube worldwide marketshare?

could the release of Zelda Twilight Princess on Gamecube this fall push Gamecube into the #2 position worldwide for last gen?

Not a chance. Not even remotely possible.

Nintendo would have to sell 4 million Gamecubes to catch up to the Xbox. To put that into perspective Nintendo has barely sold 2 million systems in the past year. The odds of them selling twice that many systems in a matter of 3-4 months is beyond remote.

 

[sfried]

Not a chance. Not even remotely possible.

Nintendo would have to sell 4 million Gamecubes to catch up to the Xbox. To put that into perspective Nintendo has barely sold 2 million systems in the past year. The odds of them selling twice that many systems in a matter of 3-4 months is beyond remote.

There's a possible chance with a) Zelda b) other games like Ikaruga and hard to find niche titles. Plus you're exagerrating figures.

 

[OtakingGX]

I could see Gamecube ending up in 2nd place, if only due to greater supply. When Xbox 360 came out Microsoft permanently shut the door on the original Xbox. From what I understand, Nintendo didn't stop producing the NES until recently. As far as winning the current generation, Nintendo already has. Even though fewer Gamecubes sold than Xboxes, more money was made in the Nintendo camp.

 

[fearsomepirate]

I'm just gonna guess that Nintendo isn't going to be manufacturing Gamecubes after Wii hits. NES games were still selling for quite some time after the SNES launched. N64 and Cube however, were dying on life support when their successors were coming down the pike.

 

[Qroach]

Xbox1 consoles are no longer being made.

are Gamecube consoles still being manufactured?

what are the current stats for Xbox1 vs Gamecube worldwide marketshare?

could the release of Zelda Twilight Princess on Gamecube this fall push Gamecube into the #2 position worldwide for last gen?

As far as i know, nintendo already stopped manufacturng gamecubes a while back...

 

[Megadrive1988]

Xbox1 production has almost definitally stopped.

needed:
*some solid infomation regarding Gamecube production being halted.
*at least two independant credible reports of sell-through figures for both consoles, as recent as possible.
* to know how how much of a stock of Gamecube are still left.


Gamecube's at $99 make Nintendo a little money, so why stop production. with some heavy advertizing this fall of Zelda on Gamecube, Nintendo could be #2 for the last gen, as far as units sold.

I don't believe the gap between Gamecube and Xbox is 4 million units, i believe it's more like 1-2 million.

 

[StefanS]

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=8498&page=2

Worldwide Hardware Sales (End of 2005)
PS2 - 101.37 million
Xbox - 24 million
GameCube - 20.61 million
Xbox 360 - 1.5 million
Game Boy Advance - 74.25 million
PSP - 15.03 million
Nintendo DS - 14.43 million

Worldwide Hardware Sales (End of March 2006)
PS2 - 103.69 million
Xbox - 24.4 million (unofficially estimated)
GameCube - 20.85 million
Xbox 360 - 3.2 million
Game Boy Advance - 75.13 million
PSP - 17.03 million
Nintendo DS - 16.73 million

PcVsConsole claims this are the official shipment numbers unless stated otherwise.

EDIT:

The figures are shipments (or "sales" to stores) using official manufacturer numbers, not from third party organizations such as NPD, Media Create, Chart Track, etc.

If you read their financial reports you'll also see that Sony's shipments are production shipments, that is every unit shipped from the factories. Even the ones currently stored in warehouses count, not just the ones "sold" to retailers.

 

[StefanS]

As far as i know, nintendo already stopped manufacturng gamecubes a while back...

Are you sure that you didn't mix that up with the time when Nintendo temporarily stopped manufacturing to clean out their stock? Afterwards they've resumed manufacturing again.

 

[Ty]

I could see Gamecube ending up in 2nd place, if only due to greater supply. When Xbox 360 came out Microsoft permanently shut the door on the original Xbox. From what I understand, Nintendo didn't stop producing the NES until recently. As far as winning the current generation, Nintendo already has. Even though fewer Gamecubes sold than Xboxes, more money was made in the Nintendo camp.

Well considering the OP was about units sold and not profit, you're kind of changing the goal posts.

I brought this up before whenever the topic of "winning" is brought up - and that is, just who defines what the metric is? Fans bicker back and forth each using their own standards, be it units sold, profit, more AAA titles, etc. Though you're the first person here AFAIK, who has claimed that Nintendo won this current generation (unless you meant GCN beat Xbox which is different than GCN winning).

 

[pipo]

Doesn't every Zelda fan in the world already own a Cube anyway?

 

[Sonic]

It would make little sense for Nintendo to continue manufacturing Gamecubes with the Wii right around the corner. Gamecube will be backwards compatible will it not? If that is the case then those that want Zelda and do not have a Cube will just purchase it for the Wii. I imaigne Nintendo wil also make more money off the sale of a Wii if the hardware specs floating around are to be believed.

Who really cares who comes in 2nd place this generation in terms of overall consoles sold? It doesn't really matter since Nintendo is already a winner going by a completely different form of measurement. And that measurement is profit. Not too shabby.

One thing that can also be looked at in terms of success is the tie in ratio for games. Which console had more software sales overall? Gamecube or Xbox?

Regardless of all this, Nintendo needs to focus on the Wii and put Gamecube to rest, if indeed the Wii is backwards compatible. This will allow Nintendo to sell Gamecube software at a discount to be used on the Wii. It will stroll in some extra dough which is always a benefit.

 

[zed]

gc sold 2.3 million last year for 20.85 million total, the trouble is MS have kept very quiet about the actual number of xboxs sold the guesstimates are between 22->24.5 million

 

[Powderkeg]

There's a possible chance with a) Zelda b) other games like Ikaruga and hard to find niche titles.

What? do you honestly believe there are nearly 4 million people just dying to play Zelda, but haven't bought a Gamecube yet?

Seriously?

Plus you're exagerrating figures.

No, really I'm not. MS has almost a 4 million unit lead over the Gamecube, and the Gamecube hasn't sold 4 million units in a single year since 2003. You're expecting them to sell 4 million units in what, about 2-3 months?

Not gonna happen.

 

[Qroach]

Are you sure that you didn't mix that up with the time when Nintendo temporarily stopped manufacturing to clean out their stock? Afterwards they've resumed manufacturing again.

Yes, this was a more recent annoucment. In the last 3 - 4 months I think I don't remember where I read that though...


[edit] anyway why would they keep producng the gamecube? there aren't any big releases coming from nintendo and sales have slowed while they focus on the Wii.

 

[Teasy]

The last 4 months of sales for GC and XBox in the US have been 185,068 for GC and 172,340 for XBox. So they've both sold very similarly over that period. Although XBox sales are dropping every month while GC's are increasing (in March XBox sold 20,000 more then GC, then they sold equally the month after, then GC sold 10,000 more then XBox the following month and 26,000 more the month after that).

Worldwide I see GameCube possibly gaining about 1 million on XBox in the rest of 2006. Not enough to make GC undisputed second place, but enough for both consoles to be more or less joint second, for what its worth..

 

[ninzel]

Even if it did it would be a hollow victory, seeing as it would have taken so much longer.
It's irrelevant now.

 

[Megadrive1988]

even though the sun is setting on Gamecube's lifecycle, I made this thread because Gamecube was the first Nintendo system I had almost total respect for. Nintendo with its partners probably did the most they've ever done to make programming games easy for 3rd parties. well i don't know how easy or not it was for Famicom/NES developers but certainly SNES and N64 were a mess. Gamecube was the most efficient of any of the last-gen consoles. I'd never even owned a 3 inch optical disc before I bought a Gamecube, even though 3 inch CDs have been around since the 80s. Resident Evil 4 was the highlight of Gamecube
(until Zelda comes out).

although it's doubtful that Gamecube will overtake Xbox1 in total worldwide sales, there's a good chance of them being even. a shared 2nd place