COD2 benches..a comparison point?
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I just played COD2 at a kiosk today...and despite being a 720P, it looked much worse than my PC running COD2 at 1280x1024. However, it did run much faster/smoother, but still, the fidelity looked like a current gen 480p game. I don't know if it was the fault of the display being too large (some Samsung screen), if the settings were incorrect, or if component cables just don't look as good as VGA, but the graphics quality definetely wasn't up there with PC graphics.
For IQ-wise it's hard to say this can match the PC version with various effects options turned on.
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/654/654961/call-of-duty-2-20050930084411971.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/654/654961/call-of-duty-2-20050930084411971.jpg
Master-Mold
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You do know that is an old screen of multi-player dont you?
I played the demo version at Best Buy from beginning to end and have done the same numerous times on my PC. Based on that at 1280 X1024 It was very hard to tell or rather I didnt notice any differences that stood out from either version except the X360 version ran better. (better FPS)
Ok I have to come out of lurking mode for this thread...
How many of you have played the PC version and the XBOX 360 version? I have been fortunate to play both and anyone who says the XBOX 360 version is equal is fooling themselves. The lower resolution textures and basic bilinear filtering should be alarm bells. Also anyone who says the demo on the XBOX 360 runs at a constant 60fps is either not very observant or completely ignorant. If we were to run a time demo on the XBOX 360 version you would probably see a figure in the late 40s to early 50s for average frame rate. It would be interesting to run the PC version with bilinear filtering only.
Now the positive side is that you are getting a close clone to a PC version at a fifth of the cost. Consoles never fare well when comparing First person shooters on the PC to their version.
Now anybody who has had the chance to see both I recommend you got to Wal-Mart and the download the PC demo. That should hopefully stop these silly thoughts that Xbox 360 version is equal to the PC version, let a lone more advanced.
Cheers!
How many of you have played the PC version and the XBOX 360 version? I have been fortunate to play both and anyone who says the XBOX 360 version is equal is fooling themselves. The lower resolution textures and basic bilinear filtering should be alarm bells. Also anyone who says the demo on the XBOX 360 runs at a constant 60fps is either not very observant or completely ignorant. If we were to run a time demo on the XBOX 360 version you would probably see a figure in the late 40s to early 50s for average frame rate. It would be interesting to run the PC version with bilinear filtering only.
Now the positive side is that you are getting a close clone to a PC version at a fifth of the cost. Consoles never fare well when comparing First person shooters on the PC to their version.
Now anybody who has had the chance to see both I recommend you got to Wal-Mart and the download the PC demo. That should hopefully stop these silly thoughts that Xbox 360 version is equal to the PC version, let a lone more advanced.
Cheers!
pjbliverpool said:
There are a vast number of possible reasons other than all the reviewers are lying fan-you-know-what liars. The PC code could be poorly optimized, especially if the X360 was the lead SKU, as the X360 sports unified shaders. Perhaps the game's doing a few subtle tricks with the unique hardware that don't run quite as smoothly in DX9.0. Or maybe it's taking advantage of the eDRAM, which the PC obviously doesn't have. All that horsepower means nothing if you don't use it well, and rather believing that everyone witnessing the two versions is lying or biased, it makes more sense to believe the PC hardware isn't being used well.
After all, how many PC games have you played that run like crap on powerful systems despite having nothing terribly taxing in terms of polygon countes, texture layers, or shader effects? Both Deus Ex games come immediately to mind as games that required far more horsepower to run smoothly than they should have. There are also a couple PS2-to-Xbox ports that didn't run as well on the Xbox, not due to the Xbox being less powerful, but simply due to less optimized code (MGS2 and Matrix: Path of Neo come to mind).
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mr_arcam said:
Well I've played both and the 360 version appears to run and look better. I experienced no slow-down, maybe I was lucky. But regardless, this is a demo that's several months old. And I would recommend that people not go to wal-mart and rather go to a Bestbuy, because the difference in quality is mind boggling. I couldn't believe how much better everything looked setup correctly and on better displays
The wal mart near me has one but it does not work. Not sure why. I actually saw it at EB and they did a good job of setting it up. The problem was that some one thought it would be good to whack the sharpness up. You should never do that when your signal is from a digital device like a computer, esp when you are displaying on LCD.
I am surprised you saw no slow down, the section I played was when we are driving into the town on jeeps. There was quite noticible slow down during that.
Overall its just great to finally see HD FPS on consoles. PC gamers have had this for a while, now console people can get their own back by running on 50inch HD displays. I cant wait to have a next gen console hooked upto my 50inch Panasonic plasma.
I am surprised you saw no slow down, the section I played was when we are driving into the town on jeeps. There was quite noticible slow down during that.
Overall its just great to finally see HD FPS on consoles. PC gamers have had this for a while, now console people can get their own back by running on 50inch HD displays. I cant wait to have a next gen console hooked upto my 50inch Panasonic plasma.
From all the previews i read, i infered that this game is made to feel,play and looks better on xb360.
It got an average 87-88/100 to Pc reviews (33 reviews) and i am sure that xb360 version is going to get a better score from the same sites.
Call Of Duty2 is not a PC port.
"Call of Duty 2 has been designed from the ground up as the No.1 Xbox 360 shooter," claims Vince Zampella, chief creative officer at COD2 developer Infinity Ward. "It's an intense game with a huge, immersive world, deep team-based gameplay, amazing enemy A.I., next-gen graphics, and unbelievable special effects."
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3144868&did=2
Something similar happen with FiFa2006 , NBA LIVE 2006 , NFS MOST WANTED and KING KONG.
Therefore these games are going to be better(at least in technical terms) in 360 than Pc.
You dont have to believe me , just believe the upcoming reviews at the next weeks.
Actually if you are looking for a game who is really PC port ,this is Quake4 .
And now i stop here because i feel that i am rather off-topic. :smile:
It got an average 87-88/100 to Pc reviews (33 reviews) and i am sure that xb360 version is going to get a better score from the same sites.
Call Of Duty2 is not a PC port.
"Call of Duty 2 has been designed from the ground up as the No.1 Xbox 360 shooter," claims Vince Zampella, chief creative officer at COD2 developer Infinity Ward. "It's an intense game with a huge, immersive world, deep team-based gameplay, amazing enemy A.I., next-gen graphics, and unbelievable special effects."
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3144868&did=2
Something similar happen with FiFa2006 , NBA LIVE 2006 , NFS MOST WANTED and KING KONG.
Therefore these games are going to be better(at least in technical terms) in 360 than Pc.
You dont have to believe me , just believe the upcoming reviews at the next weeks.
Actually if you are looking for a game who is really PC port ,this is Quake4 .
And now i stop here because i feel that i am rather off-topic. :smile:
It's the latest one I could get at http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/743/743289/imgs_1.html (dated 09/30/2005)Master-Mold said:
Could you provide newer screenshots? I browsed http://www.xboxyde.com/game_716_en.html but the latest images at http://www.xboxyde.com/gallery_2098_en.html, dated 2005-10-26, are the same ones as above.
mistwalk said:
It was an LCD, and judging from comments I've read, I believe it's the same Samsung LCD that every kiosk uses.
The image definetely looked either low resolution, or scaled, either way it didn't hold a candle to what a PC display could do. Kameo also didn't look as hot as it should have, there was some good bump mapping there, but the blurriness of the image killed it for the most part.
I'm not sure what resolution the LCD was displaying at, I didn't play around with it, however it was hooked up using component inputs, and since it was true widescreen I'm assuming the store (a Gamestop) knew enough to set it to 720P mode.
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Fox5 said:
Sounds uncalibrated to me.
When I saw and played Kameo at Best Buy it looked very crisp and razor sharp. Kameo is easily one of the best looking games I have ever seen regardless of platform.
groper said:
To be honest I would not hold too much in what was said by Vince Zampella. That’s basic PR for any launch title. I'm sure that they have tried to do stuff with the XBOX 360 that was not done on the PC version, as it’s a closed system. But to infer that the XBOX 360 version is technically better than the PC version is not correct. A semi high-end PC will be able to match / exceed the experience provided by the XBOX 360 version.
What I look forward to is titles like PG3 which are more suited to consoles.
Fox5 said:
It really just depends on the TV. Every set has to be calibrated differently. My first time checking out a 360 kiosk at Wal-mart(with the samsung LCD display) was a HUGE disappointment. For one, the colors seem oversaturated, and there was an overall blurriness to the image quality.
On a related note, I went to Bestbuy last night and to my luck they took the 360 off the kiosk and had it hooked up to a 50 inch Samsung DLP in the middle of the store. With surround sound, leather chairs, the whole works. Huge crowds of people kept rounding up all night and talking about how realistic everything looked. The difference was like night and day. I'm not really sure what is up with the LCD panels at Wal-mart and EBgames, but they're definitely doing more harm than good.
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