Blu-ray is dead - heckuva job, Sony!

Babel-17 said:
Found an interesting page courtesy of Doom9 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143253

It lists the general statistics of Blu-ray releases and if you click the link for an individual one you can also get the bitrate it was encoded at.

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php

Interesting: http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Details.php?u=689

compared to

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Details.php?u=276
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I own both those movies and they both look fantastic. Batman Begins does have some compression artifacts visible in some fast-moving scenes though, never saw any in Fifth Element. Fifth Element has more noise, however.
 
kyleb said:
There is a notable difference between good upscaling and the basic upscaling built into many HDTVs. I'd wager he is speaking in from his experiences in seeing such differences.
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I'm speaking from experience, not theory. I use a Lumagen video processor, which is generally reckoned to have about the best upscaling currently available in a consumer device - certainly better than you'll find in any upscaling DVD player. The difference what it and my TV can do is, at best, subtle. The difference between its upscaled SD and genuine HD is vast, night-and-day, chalk-and-cheese different.

I dare say that if you watch HD on a tiny screen from a long way away the difference is much smaller; but that doesn't make it correct to suggest that they're equivalent unless you qualify it by adding something about screen size and viewing distance.
 
nicolasb said:
I'm speaking from experience, not theory. I use a Lumagen video processor, which is generally reckoned to have about the best upscaling currently available in a consumer device - certainly better than you'll find in any upscaling DVD player. The difference what it and my TV can do is, at best, subtle.
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So it seems your TV already has a fairly good scaler, many don't.
 
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/high-def/sonys-bishop-blu-ray-sales-are-encouraging-14012

HM: Black Friday appeared to be positive for Blu-ray hardware and software, in addition to DVD. How was it for Sony Pictures Home Entertainment?


Bishop: It was good for Blu-ray. Hancock sold nearly 300,000 units through six days of release and a lot of that was on the Black Friday weekend. We were really encouraged with what we saw. Additionally, the numbers we are getting from our partners on the hardware side, both from PlayStation and Sony Electronics are very encouraging. A lot of key retailers actually sold out of Blu-ray players, which is a sign that it is one of the four or five hot consumer electronics items in the marketplace.
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BluRay player sales are overtaking DVD players already in Japan. It's going pretty much as I expected - the hardware threshold is lower compared to VHS (all your DVDs still work and sometimes look better vs VHS tapes being rendered useless), and the software threshold will be higher (you don't have to replace all your DVD discs as badly as you wanted to replace your VHS tapes, DVDs will always still work). If Digital Copy takes off though who knows DVD releases will go out the window altogether.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/blu-ray-over-takes-dvd-in-japan
 
aaronspink said:
X264 720P 4-5 Mb/s re-encodes are in the 4-5 GB range and can be streamed real time to a large number of users in the US and the rest of the world. 5 Mb/s ABR @ 720P provides within the same ballpark of quality as BR and lets face, considering the encode quality on a lot of BR is BAD to begin with...
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I can't stream 720P over my wireless network let alone the internet.
 
I've streamed 10Gb+ X264 1080P movies over 802.11G wireless to my PS3 several times.
 
Malo said:
I've streamed 10Gb+ X264 1080P movies over 802.11G wireless to my PS3 several times.
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My PS3 isn't right next to my router and can barely do 720P. (its 3 rooms away, double brick walls ftl)

The point I was making was, even though America and a couple of other countries internet is up to the scratch to stream 720P on a good day, there are places were it just won't work, and as such DD are not feasible ATM.
 
Betanumerical said:
The point I was making was, even though America and a couple of other countries internet is up to the scratch to stream 720P on a good day, there are places were it just won't work, and as such DD are not feasible ATM.
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True, it's not ready ATM for everyone, but BluRay is aiming for more than just temporary success.

The bigger question is whether enough people will go to BR in the next 10-20 years to make it worthwhile for Sony before DD takes over. The current target audience for expanded adoption is fairly technically inclined and likely has a decent internet connection, so I don't think BR growth is an easy task in the next couple years. Actually, the general use internet connection probably isn't DD's biggest threat anyway, as the telephone and cable companies are the ones that have the biggest penetration in the livingroom and the easiest path to content delivery.
 
Betanumerical said:
My PS3 isn't right next to my router and can barely do 720P. (its 3 rooms away, double brick walls ftl)

The point I was making was, even though America and a couple of other countries internet is up to the scratch to stream 720P on a good day, there are places were it just won't work, and as such DD are not feasible ATM.
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In such a situation I suppose wired would be a much better solution.
How much throughput can you sustain?
 
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