Bioshock

[scooby_dooby]

The water fx themselves weren't a complaint I'd wager against them (like you said, overall, they're leading edge) I was talking about the way the camera moved with the water ("too smooth").

Oh no, I understood what you were saying, I was just extending it to the water FX ino general, like when you're swimming, and look behind you, it's just a texture washing over the water. Probably shouldn't have said "I agree" and then start talking about something totally different though

 

[TheChefO]

Oh no, I understood what you were saying, I was just extending it to the water FX ino general, like when you're swimming, and look behind you, it's just a texture washing over the water. Probably shouldn't have said "I agree" and then start talking about something totally different though

heheh cool. I agree they could use improvement on the ocean fx as well.

Best RT ocean graphics I've seen are in FarCry xb360. Living my whole life close to the ocean and many hours at the beach etc, those guys nailed it for the most part. Not sure how that same effect would hold up in close proximity such as what would be required for that intro sequence though.

Nitpicking stuff though as it's not part of the core experience (afaik...)

I can't wait to have my HT fully functioning again (no surrs, half sub, no center, no projector, remodelling = ) so I can fully enjoy this title.

 

[blakjedi]

I love B3D. You guys will nitpick a game to death... Mario 64, MGS2, Gunstar Heroes (my favorite game of all time) and Zelda OOT werent graphically perfect either.... but they were magical in the sense where it all just looks and feels right... Thats the sense I get from this demo so far... too bad I CANT PLAY FPS' for long... motion sickness and all.

Bioshock, Halo 3, COD4 are like an FPS'ers dream! I may have to invest in in some sea sick medicine for the fall.

 

[blakjedi]

Best RT ocean graphics I've seen are in FarCry xb360. Living my whole life close to the ocean and many hours at the beach etc, those guys nailed it for the most part. Not sure how that same effect would hold up in close proximity such as what would be required for that intro sequence though.

As far as daytime lighting of water yes Far Cry gets a definite nod... but i've never seen nighttime calm seas done as well as Bioshock. It honestly looks like the water in the US virgin islands at night

 

[TheChefO]

I love B3D. You guys will nitpick a game to death...

Honestly I didn't want to go down this road with Bioshock as the game is freakin awesome (demo).

Just seemed with all the perfect scores coming in that people might get the wrong impresion and overhype the game. ... though with the limited marketing/hype/buzz this game has received up to this point, perhaps it needs some overhyping to have a chance to shine...

BEST! GAME! EVER!!!!!!!1111!!!!!

hmm ... I'm not even sure if that's overhyping come to think of it ...

 

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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId...17&sec=REVIEWS

10

A Wonderful World
It's easy to get lost in Rapture. Not physically, mind you -- your objectives are pretty clear and you have an excellent map. It's that the world Levine and his Irrational (now 2K Boston) team created is so credible and convincing, it sells the entire experience. By themselves, the solid gunplay, unique plot, and morality-based decisions already make for an excellent game. But it's all of that, plus everything else. The sounds of the vending machines, the demented rants of a housewife who has long lost her sanity, the ability to craft your own ammunition, the level design based on some beloved touchstones of horror (medical experimentation, a garden of evil, the performing arts), the optional photography research, the color palette, the scratchy rendition of "Beyond the Sea," the fire and lighting and water effects...everything is in its right place. Preserving the illusion allows the player to become an active participant, and that is what gives power to the choices you make during the game.

and let's not forget as we wind down the road in this thread... we only played a small sample. these 10s are coming from seeing the whole game. We do not have enough info to judge completely.

 

[thatdude90210]

too bad I CANT PLAY FPS' for long... motion sickness and all.

Bioshock, Halo 3, COD4 are like an FPS'ers dream! I may have to invest in in some sea sick medicine for the fall.

Mythbusters did a show on motion sickness and found that among common remedies, ginger/ginger pills was the only non-drug that actually worked.

 

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courtesy of a GAF post

oxm uk 10 / 10

pc gamer uk 95 / 100

pc zone 96 / 100

eurogamer 10 / 10

gamer.tv 5 / 5

game informer 10 / 10

ap magazine 5 / 5

computers & video games 9.5 / 10

gamepro 10 / 10

1up 10 / 10

xbox world 94 / 100

gamespy 5 / 5

console and gameworld 99 / 100

 

[Ike Turner]

I keep on creamin' my pants

 

[AntShaw]

I can't stop playing the demo.

I did the same thing with the Stranglehold demo. Except the more I played that, the more I disliked the game.

I find my mind drifting here at work, jonesing to play a demo I have already played through 5 times.

I can't WAIT for Tuesday, and we can get the full experience. This is such a well designed demo to give you a little taste of what Rapture is. Ive had some friends over the last few nights, and everyone sits on the couch with jaw dropped.

Gears got a similar reaction from my friends, but nothing like this. Is it Tuesday yet?

 

[scooby_dooby]

I can't stop playing the demo.

I did the same thing with the Stranglehold demo. Except the more I played that, the more I disliked the game.

I find my mind drifting here at work, jonesing to play a demo I have already played through 5 times.

I can't WAIT for Tuesday, and we can get the full experience. This is such a well designed demo to give you a little taste of what Rapture is. Ive had some friends over the last few nights, and everyone sits on the couch with jaw dropped.

Gears got a similar reaction from my friends, but nothing like this. Is it Tuesday yet?

Yup, 5 times for me too now, I hit it again last night

It's funny, I had a friend over, gave him the controller and let him play through...as soon as the demo was over, what's he do?? Presses "start" and replays the entire thing...

 

[infinity4]

the reviews' sound parts are always inspiring me to splash out on 5.1 speakers. how much do i need for 5.1 speakers i need some research :smile:

 

[AlphaWolf]

the reviews' sound parts are always inspiring me to splash out on 5.1 speakers. how much do i need for 5.1 speakers i need some research :smile:

you can probably get a cheap set for like $50

 

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IGN 9.7

The visuals too will constantly amaze, from finely detailed industrial structures to the weapon models, the choices of which areas to light and which to leave in the dark, and plasmid effects. And then there's the water, oh, the water. It's so gorgeous, rippling and gurgling through every one of Rapture's hallways, tumbling from ceilings and, of course, encasing the city itself. You get lots of little details to enjoy as well, like the welts on your hand when you boot up the insect swarm plasmid, the steam jets that hiss from Big Daddies after they've taken damage, fish in tanks and in the ocean that dart away as you approach, and the flickering billboards and tattered posters that remain from Rapture's glory days.


...They didn't just deliver something that's fun to play, a criterion so often cited as the benchmark of what makes a game worthwhile. BioShock stands as a monolithic example of the convergence of entertaining gameplay and an irresistibly sinister, engrossing storyline that encompasses a host of multifaceted characters. This is an essential gaming experience.

10 Presentation
An intriguing, well-written story delivered with at a precise sense of pace. It doesn't get any better than this.

9.5 Graphics
It may not be as technically impressive as Gears of War, but the art style, animations, and special effects create an unparalleled sense of mood and believability.

10 Sound
Top-notch voice acting, spectacular ambient effects, and overall some of the best sound design ever built into a game.

9.5 Gameplay
Superb control, intelligent enemies, and a wildly entertaining mix of weapons and plasmids.

9.0 Lasting Appeal
A lengthy adventure, 20 hours or so if you don't rush it, yet there's enough variation in the gameplay to bring you back for another round.

9.7 Incredible OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

 

[JISHELL]

Ideeowt

Wow..Im gonna sound like a 13 year old kid,BUT I JUST RELEALIZED I HAVE OFF WORK!!!I put in for this day months ago,with no relation to the games release date...Its like an episode of lost...

 

[<nu>faust]

A lengthy adventure, 20 hours or so if you don't rush it, yet there's enough variation in the gameplay to bring you back for another round.

i disagree. i'm only 4 hours into the game (and i'm taking it really slow) but even up to this point there are just so many different weapon/plasmid/upgrade combinations, so many different ways of progressing , so many secrets/details scattered around i'd say most people will come back to this game way more than just a couple of times

 

[scooby_dooby]

i disagree. i'm only 4 hours into the game (and i'm taking it really slow) but even up to this point there are just so many different weapon/plasmid/upgrade combinations, so many different ways of progressing , so many secrets/details scattered around i'd say most people will come back to this game way more than just a couple of times

Oh you just had to go and rub that in didn't ya!

 

[Cheezdoodles]

courtesy of a GAF postoxm uk 10 / 10

pc gamer uk 95 / 100

pc zone 96 / 100

eurogamer 10 / 10

gamer.tv 5 / 5

game informer 10 / 10

ap magazine 5 / 5

computers & video games 9.5 / 10

gamepro 10 / 10

1up 10 / 10

xbox world 94 / 100

gamespy 5 / 5

console and gameworld 99 / 100

HOLY CRAP, if this keeps going, its gonna be the best game in history according to reviews (going by metacritic and gamerankings.com)

 

[<nu>faust]

Oh you just had to go and rub that in didn't ya!

well next week when all of you guys start enjoying the greatness that is bioshock, i'll be busy with being miserable (i'll be in training 12 hours a day for the next 1.5 months without a single day off) i call this fair trade sir

 

[22psi]

thanks to GAF