Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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  1. BRiT

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    Do / will these TF numbers include RT processing power or not? What do you think they will use to indicate RT prowess?
     
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    I mean, a reference RX 5700XT is closer to 10TF and much smaller than that?

    [​IMG]

    If those cards are 12"X3", pulling that out of my butt, Series X will have 2X the volume, 12"X6". I guess more depending on the depth.
     
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    That would be a way to pump up the TF count for marketing atleast :p
     
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    Like when MS touted their 5 billion transistors for the One, ignoring that a large chunk were inert ESRAM. If the rumors are true Sony might have to resort to similar shenanigans this time.
     
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    GigaRays/Sec is the current metric.
     
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    Exactly now it's Sony's turn :p
     
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    This thread is quite entertaining.
     
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    Techpowerup says the 5600xt is 10.5", same as the 5700xt.

    Perhaps people are confused because Donald Trump is holding the 5600XT in the photo.
     
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    Right, but I dont believe we will see that metric used for consoles. I still don't know if AMD will use that or try to define their own metric.
     
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    My comment was about the traditional CU * ALUs * Clk * 2 might not end up as high in TF as the rumors are saying.

    Regardless of other ways to inflate the number.

    The performance will be there, we already know RDNA is a lot better in IPC, and we will have hardware RT in addition to the traditional compute.
     
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    It's not very hard to find a 5700XT with small fan design now.

    https://www.powercolor.com/product?id=1565842787
    Board Dimensions 230mm*111mm*41mm
     
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    Portable device will use UFS 3.0. 2.9GB/s. Isn't SSD a bit big?
     
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    Pfft, call me when it's TeraRays..

    Wanna measure my RTs in TRs.

    =p
     
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    Tomb Raiders?
     
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    such as?
     
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    PS1 was state of the art and easy to make games on. 3D was at it's infancy.
    PS2 was state of the art, exotic but advanced 3D graphics have not been standardized yet, so they continued the traditional formula where the platform holder was responsible for the architecture and experimented with what can be done.
    PS3 was the first Sony console to introduce a PC based GPU. 3D graphics have been pretty much standardized now so they made the right choice. Cell was planned since the PS2. It was along term plan where Sony was seeing into the future. They were right but made some wrong decisions. Most likely because they werent part of the gradual course of Intel and AMD who were in the CPU market that helped them refine a multi threated CPU.
    PS4 corrected all the mistakes of the PS3 and went with easy to produce hardware and PC based architecture. Someone might say it was the PS1 of the generation
    PS5 seems more of the same.
     
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    I’m somewhat wondering if instead the plan might be 2x2GB for up to 2 x 1TB internal storage, with expansion for 1TB (3rd DRAM being farther).
     
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    What I may ask may be stupid since I lack the technical knowledge, but.....are games using the storage drive as a scratch disk, and if yes how? If not what are the potential with a super fast storage medium like in the PS5?
     
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    Sparse Virtual Textures everywhere :?:
     
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