Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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  1. AbsoluteBeginner

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    Yea...it absolutely has nothing to do with PS5. Nothing at all...

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    People who are discussing here are discussing leaks. If you are not interested in it, you can wait official reveal.
     
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    This patent pretty much settles in the first line that it is a hardware based approach
     
  3. Shifty Geezer

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    It's a thread for discussing baseless rumours. If you don't like it, don't read it.
     
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    GLX does seem to refer to a set of operations that interact with memory without engaging functionality like the texture hardware.
    I think there was a small naming correlation for one case involving bvh64, which is a term that showed up in an LLVM commit related to different versions of GFX10 last June.
    One wrinkle is that the reference seemed to categorize the BVH instructions under the image instruction type, which could give the impression of a closer association with the texture block.

    The references in the attached selection are sparse on details.
    Being a GLX case would be consistent with being primarily attached to the memory domain while not needing to involve texture hardware, the LLVM instruction name notwithstanding.
    The theoretical values seemed to be missing context as to the meaning of their units, but might have implied the peak throughput of functionality pulling from the cache data path.
     
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    Official specs from microsoft:
    https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/12/12/microsoft-unveils-xbox-series-x/
    "custom RDNA"
    "Zen 2"
    "hardware accelerated ray tracing"
    "our next-generation SSD will virtually eliminate load times"

    Sony's official interview about the ps5:
    https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
    https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-playstation-5/
    "custom variant of Navi"
    "Zen 2"
    "hardware-based ray tracing" (exact wording from CES)
    "There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware" (Cerny's wording)
    "devkit is a low speed version" of the ssd, live presentation was 0.8s instead of 15s
    “The raw read speed is important but so are the details of the I/O mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them"

    I'm so off topic right now, this is the opposite of baseless rumors
     
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    Screenshot of the PS5 devkit's UI.
     
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    Cause people who work at development places are prone to use 4Chan ? Or is that from 8Chan ?
     
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    It's probably harder to track a 4chan user than a regular vbulletin one.
     
  11. anexanhume

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    4chan has a history of legitimate leaks.
     
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    I just went back to January 2017 DF article referrencing 2016 E3 whitepaper from XBX.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ace-to-4k-how-scorpio-targets-ultra-hd-gaming

    Whats interesting, it mainly refers to scaling Xbox One games to PC and Scorpio, and for Scorpio it gives relatively scarce details.

    Seems to me that giving exact info to developers that far of (+18 months) is being less and less of a requirement. Tools and engines have gotten so scalable, and console hardware is at most extension of current gen PC hardware, that giving system diagrams (ala 360) makes little sense.

    Situation was even more "extreme" with PS4Pro and having legit documentation leaking only 5 months before system was out, and specs in March.

    I can see not many 3rd party studios having exact specs yet, if anyone. But I can see it leaking at GDC if nothing happens till then...
     
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    Law of probability? Post enough of everything and people only remember the hits and not the misses?
     
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    4chan has a history.
     
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    Another entertaining leak:

     
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    Where should I look to get the confirmation that Arden is XSX?
     
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    Speaking of the github files, would anyone be able to determine which sections mentioned ray tracing or the bvh64 scenario. I'm curious as to the timing of it.
    Can it be determined how long ago those were added at this point, or the file create times and last-saved of those entrants?
     
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    This is the closest piece of journalism we have to it. Which is basically a recap of it all going down on Twitter and Resetera without the low signal to noise ratio.
    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...laystation-5-xbox-series-x-spec-leak-analysed

    I haven't personally heard anything on the chip specs. The studios I know have them locked in special NDA based rooms. Only people working on those projects go in there and out with their regular desk in the more public environment. Passcards etc. Would be very difficult for someone to sneak information out without the rest of the team figuring out who the leaker would be. Most of the other leaks, I'm not sure which studios are pumping, I suspect probably not the major AAA studios - they have the funding and real estate which leads to natural guards against leaks.
     
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    The github repository had BC testing done for Arden in two modes, one mode had the clockspeed of the original Xbox One (or maybe the S, forget which) and one had the One X clocks.
     
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    The anonymity, reach, and the proclivity for generating feverish attention.
     
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