Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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  1. Betanumerical

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    Depends, its 9TF is the GitHub leaks are up to date and represent the final console. Im not saying they do or don't because no one can confidently say that at this point. There is just some stuff that doesn't smell quite right in the repo.
     
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    And xsx rdna1 confirmed? -9TF rdna1 for ps5 i assume and up to 12 for xbox.
     
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    9TF? Or maybe 12, or even 13TF?

    Wrong answer. Sony has something better, namely their superior First-party studios.

    I have spoken.
     
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    576GB/s for PS5
    720GB/s for XSX

    (These are 18Gbps chips on 256/320bit bus they have)
     
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    We will see about that, this time around ms focus more on 1st party studios. This wont be like 2013 consoles. With ms having a leg up in performance, multiplat games have an advantage there, and 1st party games have more headroom too.
     
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    Struggle to see why would Sony announce PS5 in public on CES. They will make megaton the moment they have one similar to 2013, so why do it at CES?

    Although, since Wired article out of the blue I guess we can expect anything.
     
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    They’re probably not going to do a full reveal. May just do a trailer similar to Xbox Series X reveal at the game awards, show the box, show some game action and some devs saying how great it’s going to be. Look at all the good press MS got out of their reveal, Sony may go for something similar and save full spec reveal for their own event in Feb.
     
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    Wow, 6 pages since I last checked the thread yesterday. Is this neogaf era?

    I just wanted to make just a brief comment about backwards compatibility, IMO is going to be a very important item, not because of existing PS4 and XBX players but of potential buyers that have missed the previous gen (like me).

    I wasn't very interested in many of the games that have come out for consoles as most of them are available on PC. I'm a huge TLOU and MGS fan and I was planning on buying the PS4 just for TLOU2 and Death Stranding. If all these games have improved visuals when running on next-gen hardware that's already a massive library to begin with. It removes two issues of previous console launches: lack of games and the need to rush the good ones to meet the console launch date.

    It also reduces the entry price level for new and previous gen users, when I bought the PS3 at launch (come on, it was the cheapest BR player available) I had to spent an additional 100€ on Resistance and Motorstorm (please Sony, release another one with the level of visuals promised). With PS5 and SEX you don't have to buy new games right away, get used PS4 and XBX games or play your current library.

    Previous gens have had BC before, but I don't think is the same scenario. My PS3 had backwards compatibility with PS2 and PSX if I remember correctly (EU consoles had SW BC at launch if I'm not mistaken), but I can't remember using this feature other than to play MGS3 and Buzz... Why? IMO Because most PSX and PS2 games felt outdated and clumsy even compared to unpolished PS3 games like Motorstorm. I don't think that is going to happen at all with PS4 and XBX games.
     
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    I was hoping for a feck ton of ducks, all ray traced on a fully simulated lake, smoke billowing in and perhaps a lightning strike for dramatic effect.

    Make my eyes hurt how far they take the duck demo.

    Probably the wrong setting, but they better drop the duck demo soon.

    It's not a new gen until the fat duck swims :yes:
     
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    PS4 never had one though.
     
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    My dreams dashed and going senile :roll:

    I was sure the PS4 got a duck outing :sad:
     
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    Obviously he's not expecting robots to be consumer products so could it be stealth Horizon Zero Dawn II hype? If Sony do show a real time trailer of it, hopefully it's on par with Hellblade II graphics wise which should give more hope of a 13 TF PS5 :mrgreen:. If it's Godfall level then cancel Project PS5 altogether!
     
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    Nice.
    I updated the post. The ones that are ROP bound will have fill rates as frequency * ROPs. With our napkin math, we see that in each scenario aside from RGBA8, XSX will have more fill rate than PS5 just due to bandwidth limitations.
     
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    Mind you it might end up 640 vs 576 or even 560 vs 567.
     
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    Even if the defect rates are under control, there are some implications to the TDP & clocks; between functional chips, there will be some variation in watt/frequency, which the power/circuitry or cooling/chassis designs need to consider (although I suppose the noise factor can be a "deal with it" situation).
     
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    No worries. We can re-do it when the final specs are released.
     
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    Thank you Richard.
    If you’re like me and had issues catching up on a lot of small moving parts; Richard goes through the entirety of it and the recent performance leaks in a single video. Really helpful in clarifying how things became known so quickly and making sense of the results, Without having to read pages on end of concern trolling.
     
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    It'll be a Playroom II demo with raytraced astrobots.
     
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