Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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  1. iroboto

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    you need to combine that with resolution and colour depth vs bandwidth availability for that metric to be complete.
     
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    Kinda funny how Arden and Sparkman are both towns in state of Arkansas. Heh...the coincidence.
     
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    Just dont bring "Arkancide" into the thread.
     
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    Would be moot if they don't have sufficient external bandwidth. The simplest would be to just add more DCUs/WGPs per array (also from a die size standpoint in terms of overhead blocks needed for extra arrays).

    Edit:
    I'd be interested in Navi 10 bandwidth scaling since the 5700 series can be anywhere from 6.7 - 10.1TF on 448GB/s.
     
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    Looking at the RDNA whitepaper, True Audio Next sounds a lot like what Sony talked about for their 3D audio.

    I wonder if RDNA2, or whatever it will be called, has further investment in this, or if Sony has customized it further.
     
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    Someone has broken some rules somewhere :)

    But Klee said what they wanted to hear, you must understand that. Everything else is just wrong. Real B3D stuff, this Klee.

    He has also been wrong.

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    So it is a hardware block on the GPU afterall, RDNA2 GPU's release before PS5 so we probably going to see some tests on it.
     
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    I wouldn't call it a hardware block. It's just using the standard GPU parts to do the work via some driver, software SDK features. That's assuming Sony is just using the standard RDNA features provided by AMD.
     
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    What’s different from the GCN version?
     
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    He stated it's his primary console now. That tell me it's backward compatible with anything the Xbox One can play.



    That is funny. I've only been living in Northwest Arkansas for the past 11 years. So it's no wonder I never heard of those towns in the Southern Arkansas.

    BTW, maybe the zip codes have something to do with the projects?

    Arden, Arkansas 71822
    Sparkman, Arkansas 71763

    I had to Google that as I don't keep up with the news. LOL

    Tommy McClain
     
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    Yo! Nice calculation. One more thing. I'm pretty sure bunch of you guys heard for Hmqgg ( member on ERA ), one of Xbox insiders. He claimed that regarding performance Scarlet chip is equal to Dante ( devkit ) chip. And also number was this one : Custom AMD Navi @ 1475MHz 64cu - which is also 12 TFLOPS ( maybe RDNA, maybe not, i dunno. Can you calculate pixel fillrate again with 1475 Mhz versus 2.0 in PS5? Thanks!
     
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    gcn version was a dedicated dsp and it didn’t have the 3D audio capability. True Audio Next is strictly gpgpu and has no backwards compatibility with gcn True Audio. That’s interesting with respect to BC on PS5. I wonder if they’ll include the dsp just to make it easier. I think it’s pretty small.
     
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    Its 94,40 GP/s

    But its not 64CU chip clocked at 1475MHZ.

    If that were the case I would say, even though its missing 2.8TF, PS5 hypotetical chip would be a better way to go. I would say, for 64CU part clocked at 1475MHZ,t it is waste of silicon (considering Navi clock sweet spot)
     
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    Pass me the salt.
     
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    That's for XSX, right? How much pixel fill rate would be then in PS5 if TF are 9.2?
     
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    That's made up.

    Arden is 56CUs at ~1700mhz
     
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    2000 x 64 ROPs - 128 GP/s

    This is why you would rather push the clocks and get most out of your chip, then go wide and slow. This is why Navi clocks higher then any AMD chip, because console makers want as much freq as possible. Makes for smaller chip, and more bang for a buck.

    PS5 at 36CU 2.0GHZ and Zen2 with 1/4 of the cache would be, IMO, beautiful and elegant chip.
     
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    By Hmqgg? Or data leaks showed other numbers which i've missed?
     
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    Made up by some else. Hmqgg never confirmed it.
     
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    Somehow, i've google it and found this one. LOL

    [​IMG]
     
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    Deja-Vu All over again...
     
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