Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

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t remains to be seen if Sony can match MS tech in any aspect.
If we set the hype and console warrior stuff aside. Both of them have limited resources (time being the biggest factor here). They likely to have focused on different things here. There is still a lot to reveal for both companies right up to post E3 right around pre-order time we would know mostly everything.

I suspect largely that there won't be 'pro' models this generation. With MS announcing Series X up front; I think it's a statement that the next node release isn't going to be enough for them to release new hardware. Putting that into consideration; when I think about where the focus will be for both companies; both of them must be focusing a lot more on features than before. Features to reduce or accelerate workloads.

If all things were equal between the two; Sony still has an additional workload of supporting Backwards Compatibility alongside the need to support improving VR. One of which MS finished a while back the other MS refuses to enter.
 
I think the 12TF target depends on what happens when they ramp up for production. They may have to cut CUs or clocks to get acceptable yields in full production runs. If they do have to do that, then they have wiggle room to avoid "Downgrade confirmed".
 
If we set the hype and console warrior stuff aside. Both of them have limited resources (time being the biggest factor here). They likely to have focused on different things here. There is still a lot to reveal for both companies right up to post E3 right around pre-order time we would know mostly everything.

I suspect largely that there won't be 'pro' models this generation. With MS announcing Series X up front; I think it's a statement that the next node release isn't going to be enough for them to release new hardware. Putting that into consideration; when I think about where the focus will be for both companies; both of them must be focusing a lot more on features than before. Features to reduce or accelerate workloads.
I always keep in mind they both rely 90% on AMD tech, so whatever compromise is done on one aspect provides an advantage on another. The interesting part is what aspect will be balanced differently between the two.

And of course there's always the possibility of one making a mistake...But it's looking really good for both so far.
 
Any chance memory paging *magic* (wtf that means) have to do with the change in memory chips I guess with respect to jumping to the SSD drive

Tom Warren doesn't just drink the MS kool-aid, he drowns in it. He's coming across like Arthur Gies did last gen after reading a bunch of documents he didn't understand and started going on about the "special sauce" MS had that was just standard features they decided to rename to make them appear exotic...
 
The 12TF target is official but open to interpretation.


Define "official". The only thing that came from MS is 2X One X (heh). Also 4X One X in a tweet for that matter. We have to infer they are talking about CPU there but again, it's not explicit. Maybe it's 24 TF?

Todays DF article states though

I asked Microsoft for clarification on its current-gen multiplier comparisons with Series X, but the firm declined to commit in the here and now to a precise figure. However, our information is that the GPU is indeed 12TF and what are almost certainly well-sourced leaks from Windows Central back this up.

That sounds to me like it's 12TF, not "9TF but better architecture brings it to 2X". Which I always kinda thought was a non starter theory anyway. I remember that a lot of people refused to believe One X would really hit 6TF no matter how many times MS officially confirmed it, right up until the damn thing launched. It was always "oh that's just a target, they're gonna downlock it, they wont really hit that etc etc"

Overall the vagueness is good for MS though. You dont want a precise target for Cerny to aim at.

Or it could be everything is locked down on all sides and there's nothing Cerny can do either way and they're more concerned about not hitting 12TF in the final and then being criticized for false advertising. I'm simply not in a position to know which is which.
 
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I don't know what his take is lol.


Yeah I dont even understand what he's getting at either, other than it seems like he has an ax to grind for some reason, I dont know does he have a history against MS/Xbox/Phil?. He's a well known despised figure in the industry.

I mean, is he trying to imply Series X is weak, when by all accounts the markers they've put down have been on the powerful side of what anybody reasonable expected? And did he really expect them to reveal transistor count now? (I wish!). That's an oddly esoteric number anyway...

Honestly it kind of reads like one of those Era laypeople who read 16GB and 12TF and start complaining that it's not 32GB, minimum 4TB SSD, and at least 15-20+TF. They dont understand that's pie in the sky because they dont follow stuff closely. I would have assumed he would be more educated than that given his position, but then again he's Randy PItchford LOL.
 
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Tom Warren doesn't just drink the MS kool-aid, he drowns in it. He's coming across like Arthur Gies did last gen after reading a bunch of documents he didn't understand and started going on about the "special sauce" MS had that was just standard features they decided to rename to make them appear exotic...
lol yea I'm quite skeptical he fully understands what he is posting.

Unless it's patented (like their VRS) I don't think it's much more than MS making slight modifications to an existing AMD block.
 
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