Asus Radeon 9800XT

Even Nvidia's big partners like Asus can't keep losing money by having uncompetative cards curtesty of Nvidia. Life's going to be a lot harder for Nvidia with a big slice of the Asus pie going to ATI. It may be the start of a landslide if the rumours about other companies going from "exclusive Nvidia" to "ATI too" come true.
 
Help me with this one.... When Nvidia became a big IHV? When they have made a contract with Microsoft for Xbox, wasn't it?

Now Ati made a contract with Microsoft for Xbox2... Do you think Microsoft rules the success of an IHV?
 
russo121 said:
Help me with this one.... When Nvidia became a big IHV? When they have made a contract with Microsoft for Xbox, wasn't it?

Now Ati made a contract with Microsoft for Xbox2... Do you think Microsoft rules the success of an IHV?

maybe not but it sure is a good sign for ihv's... press like that is always good news... therefore ati will reap the rewards of it...

this was one of the reasons why people were a little taken aback that nvidia did not react differently than it did when it lost out on the contract...

well at least I did...
 
Sazar said:
this was one of the reasons why people were a little taken aback that nvidia did not react differently than it did when it lost out on the contract...

well at least I did...


We only saw the public reaction... they must have had months to prepare those stiff upper lips. :)
 
I like that orange pcb. It would be nice for asus to put some ballbearings into those fans to keep them spinning. Bushings tend to freeze up after a while and some blame the fans for dying out while they're just fine.
 
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros. said:
I still don't like those two small fans. The one big one on the standard ATI 9800XT design looks much better/quieter to me.

Heatsink on the Asus is looking better, as is the VIVO if the card is going for the same price as the ATI 9800XT.
 
JD said:
Bushings tend to freeze up after a while and some blame the fans for dying out while they're just fine.
the fan freezes up and you consider it to be "just fine"? What if the engine in your car freezes up? I think you'll not be driving to work that day, and I would expect you would blame the car for not working, yes?
 
I meant that the electronic component of the fan is working properly but the mechanical part of the fan doesn't turn over because it lacks oil on the spindle. Many would consider the electronic component to be faulty and give up without trying to disassemble the fan and putting oil on the spindle which unfreezes the fan. Two of my fans do this already and need to be oiled once every few months. My ballbearing cpu fan on the other hand just keeps on spinning without any assistance from me. I don't understand why vendors skimp on this on the video card fans. I have seen hundreds of "my fan failed what should I do" type posts on the hw forums. Having 2 fans on the asus card equals double the trouble if they keep on freezing and producing weird noise. The ballbearings are cheap enough to be implemented on all fans, imo. Their benefit outweights the constant problem reports and probably rmas as well.
 
well, to be honest, every attempt I've made at disassembling a fan has ended me with a bent up, but otherwise intact fan. But what do I care, I usually don't use stock cooling anyhow... got a fanless 1U copper/aluminum alloy h/s and a TMD fan to stick on my 9600XT :D
 
Sage, I concur that messing with fans is pain in the neck. For example, my gf2 fan screws that hold it to the heatsink had to be drilled out and replaced because the original screws were impossible to take out. I broke a screwdriver on them. That's why I'm all for ballbearings. The future is ballbearings not plastics :) He, he...
 
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