Apple post biggest profits ever.

Discussion in 'Graphics and Semiconductor Industry' started by Sinistar, Jan 28, 2015.

Tags:
  1. tuna

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2002
    Messages:
    3,550
    Likes Received:
    590
    Is this about the DRM applied to songs/files purchased from iTunes Music Store?
     
  2. eastmen

    Legend Subscriber

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Messages:
    13,878
    Likes Received:
    4,724
    This is great do you even know what your talking about ?

    ITunes plus came around in 2007 and cost more per track for drm free music . ITunes 7 came out in 2006.

    You could buy DRM free music from other companies and put them on your iTunes account using harmony from real player network.

    Your happy that Apple delayed you from getting DRM free music for over a year.

    You act like apple was the victim here but they happily took millions from the big bad music industry while carving out a nice 90% of mp3 hardware sales and making billions off that.

    The only victims were the itune users that had alternatives denied to them by papa jobs just like they had low priced ebooks denied from them from papa jobs.
     
  3. Pressure

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    593
    Again, you could import those DRM free MP3s into iTunes, no problem. I suppose the world have moved on and today we can mix and match music from different stores and sources. Win for all!

    I suppose we just don't see eye to eye on this specific (dated?) issue and that is absolutely fine :)
     
  4. Arwin

    Arwin Now Officially a Top 10 Poster
    Moderator Legend

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    18,762
    Likes Received:
    2,639
    Location:
    Maastricht, The Netherlands
    I was in the store this weekend because my mother wanted me to check out a Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 deal and I feel that while you can get some very cool hardware from Samsung, when you actually use them the Apples hold up very well still, even accounting for the price difference. They're just always smooth and fast with anything they do, and very few other hardware seems to be able to pull that off. The newest Samsung Tab S 10.5 inch tablet was there though for 300 euro (temporary deal) and that was a really nice piece of hardware for that price, it has to be said.
     
  5. rcf

    rcf
    Regular

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    430
    Likes Received:
    355
    My mother also wanted a tablet, and I was lucky to find a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 for the same price of a Tab 4 10.1 (or roughly half the price of my iPad Air 16gb). The iPad's user interface was more responsive (at least before IOS 8.x...) despite the fact that the Galaxy Pro has four A15 cores + four A7 cores, and the iPad's battery lasted a bit longer. They have the same size and weight, but for half the price of an IPad the Galaxy Tab Pro is a much better deal since it has better screen (albeit not 4:3 like the Ipad's), better cameras, infrared support, microSD support and does not feel "locked" like the iPad, which is very restricted unless jailbroken.
     
  6. patsu

    Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Messages:
    27,709
    Likes Received:
    145
    Eh... Apple did not delay DRM free music. They were harping about it to the music execs. Around that time, Apple refused to move when the labels wanted to raise the price above $0.99 for some DRM'ed songs. Jobs refused.

    The music folks gave DRM free music to someone else first. But it didn't make much impact. Apple eventually got the approval and made it happen on iTunes.


    iPad has way more tablet software in comparison.
     
  7. eastmen

    Legend Subscriber

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Messages:
    13,878
    Likes Received:
    4,724
    Ah I see so apple didn't have drm free music first and they blocked those who did from interfacing with iTunes . But apple really wanted it so badly but I guess locking you into iTunes for your purchases comes before even drm free music.
     
  8. 3dfoster

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    It seems its not as easy as you would imagine!
    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31016446
     
    London Geezer likes this.
  9. Pressure

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    593
    You can/could always import DRM-free MP3s into iTunes from any source. You couldn't import DRM-infested MP3s using third party software for good reasons, as the DRM-scheme wasn't implemented in iTunes.

    That would be like demanding that Origin should work seamlessly with Steam and other software.
     
  10. Scott_Arm

    Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    15,134
    Likes Received:
    7,679
    I have always imported DRM-free mp3s into iTunes. In fact, I've never purchased an mp3 and I have a library of mp3s that I've built in iTunes over the last 10+ years.
     
  11. Newguy

    Regular

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    122
    $18b pure profit in one quarter is mental. That's about a third of Intel's total annual revenue or about double Nvidia and AMD's combined yearly revenue. Looking it up that's more than Walmart's 2013 profit if wikipedia's to be believed. What is going on. They certainly know how to make money, that's undeniable.

    Bit off tangent but here's a crazy thought... AMD? Supposedly they're planning on using their own CPUs again which they'll be able to get a head start with, they'll have a lot of graphics IP they can use in all their products and with their help they could make them the industry standard (eventually), combined ARM knowledge, maybe not yet but going into the server/HPC market (ARM and x86 + graphics), home and handheld console market too if rumours are to be believed with AMD getting Nintendo's handheld. With console penetration they might be able to get Apple TV in (why make your own if you can get a deal with MS/Nintendo/Sony?), they could have a complete mobile line and integrate (handheld console + phone + tablet + MP3) and provide support with their desktops... Hmm.
     
  12. Pressure

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    593
    Not sure why they should invest in AMD, they seem perfectly capable of producing well performing SoCs/processors themselves as evident by the A8/X.

    I feel like IMG Tech would be a better match. If they wanted AMD know-how, they would go on a hiring spree and add to their already sizable team of SoC, Processor, DSP and GPU specialists.
     
  13. 3dilettante

    Legend Alpha

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2003
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    4,799
    Location:
    Well within 3d
    Apple has the money to buy AMD, but whether it can recoup that investment is another matter.
    For most of Apple's current product range that makes all that money, AMD has no presence. It will take the increasingly late rollout of new technology to begin to allay serious concerns about how much capability AMD has left in the power range of the desktop and server--should Apple care enough about that.
    Any industry initiatives that AMD has become questionable if a big competitor to everyone else in said industry buys it out, so a number of initiatives that AMD is counting on to give it long-term value would likely lose their value at the point of purchase.
    AMD's x86 future would likely evaporate. Even though the latest agreements allow for the possibility of renegotiating its cross-licensing with Intel, I do not expect anyone is going to blame Intel if it refuses to throw a bone to a gargantuan player like Apple.
    AMD's debt is a big negative, one that seems far bigger than what positives AMD provides.

    Everyone else is just leaching out its best staff, waiting for AMD to spin off or sell what is left to service its debt and operations, or waiting for it to implode.
     
  14. silent_guy

    Veteran Subscriber

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    1,382
    What does AMD have that might be of interest of Apple? There's no single field in which they are the undisputed leader.
     
  15. London Geezer

    Legend Subscriber

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2002
    Messages:
    24,144
    Likes Received:
    10,288
    Well, what does any other company have that might interest them? And what would be a good investment?
     
  16. Scott_Arm

    Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    15,134
    Likes Received:
    7,679
    Is AMD really in that bad of a situation? I would have thought with Xbox One and PS4 they'd be doing quite well.

    Can't really see Apple buying them. I know they've used AMD GPUs in the past. Not sure if any of the iMacs or Macbooks use them right now. CPUs have been Intel since they went x86. I suppose that could change. I've read they're unhappy with Intel delaying some of their product refreshes. Owning AMD would allow them to control their own destiny, but I'm not sure if it really makes sense to buy that entire business.
     
  17. London Geezer

    Legend Subscriber

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2002
    Messages:
    24,144
    Likes Received:
    10,288
    The real question is Where do they want to go from here? Buying off businesses means nothig if there isn't a firm plan in place.
    Plan first, buy later.
     
  18. 3dilettante

    Legend Alpha

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2003
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    4,799
    Location:
    Well within 3d
    There's a gloom thread for AMD that can go over how it is doing. If it weren't for semicustom, AMD would be losing money, or at least would be losing more depending on what accounting practices you go by. There's too much besides that which is losing money to do anything but temporarily tread water.
     
  19. silent_guy

    Veteran Subscriber

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2006
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    1,382
    Small targeted investments to acquire technology that gives them a competitive edge. Such as buying Authentic: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...mits-to-cancelled-nexus-6-fingerprint-reader/

    I don't think anyone questions that Apple has the best fingerprint reader out there and that it's a fantastic asset. It works great and it's an essential piece of the Apple Pay puzzle.
     
  20. London Geezer

    Legend Subscriber

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2002
    Messages:
    24,144
    Likes Received:
    10,288
    I love these lists...

    http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/11/what-you-could-buy-with-apple-700-billion-market-cap/

     
Loading...

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Beyond3D has been around for over a decade and prides itself on being the best place on the web for in-depth, technically-driven discussion and analysis of 3D graphics hardware. If you love pixels and transistors, you've come to the right place!

    Beyond3D is proudly published by GPU Tools Ltd.
Loading...