There made so many points of higher CPU and GPU performance throughout. 3X here, 6X here, 2X here. Did you stop watching after the first 20 minutes?
What is also intrestin, they say only 8 GPU Cores. No Shader count no clock speed and the fans are happy? Realy!?
Yeah but I want to see real world perf and not a synthetic bench. I want to see how fast can run games, how fast can use PS, or render a video, etc.
This is what we have for now, summary taken from Eug:What is also intrestin, they say only 8 GPU Cores. No Shader count no clock speed and the fans are happy? Realy!?
And MacBook Pro 13" too. I guess they had to flip the 13" otherwise - based not the numbers they gave -the 13" Air would have murdered the 13" MBP in performance. Hardware shipping next week. It'll be interesting to see how fast they are once they're out there. I imagine compatible benchmarks will be rare but it'll have to be application run benchmarks for a while.
The latest Mac Minis use a 65W desktop part from intel. This one will likely draw 10W or so in the Mini. The fan ensures it won’t thermally throttle.Im more interested in seeing the benchmarks for these than the recent Zen3 ones.
Esp the fanless laptop.
They stuck a fan in the mac mini :sly: God I used to have one, It was soooooo loud. Same as my recent Intel NUC, I had to downclock that to 80% speed otherwise its sounds like a vacuum cleaner
Too early to tell, the battery life figures reflect what you’d get if workloads are dominated by stuff like browsing and video playback which would run mostly on the efficiency cores.The latest Mac Minis use a 65W desktop part from intel. This one will likely draw 10W or so in the Mini. The fan ensures it won’t thermally throttle.
Quick Edit: The MBP 13” has a 20% larger battery and 10-15% longer reported runtime (20h !!), implying that the fans aren’t used to raise clocks a lot.
The latest Mac Minis use a 65W desktop part from intel. This one will likely draw 10W or so in the Mini. The fan ensures it won’t thermally throttle.
Quick Edit: The MBP 13” has a 20% larger battery and 10-15% longer reported runtime (20h !!), implying that the fans aren’t used to raise clocks a lot.
No eGPU support for M1: https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/10/macs-with-the-m1-chip-do-not-support-egpus/
Your first Apple event?
I hope there will be better reviews than "how cool M1 is, it has a 16-core Neural Engine" reviews. Reviews with Cinebench results, Handbrake etc.
I have ignored it, the whole event was so boring.
"Look, here is the M1, it has 8 CPU cores, 8-core GPU and 16-core Neural Engine."
"Look, here is MBA with M1, it has 8 CPU cores, 7-8-core GPU and 16-core Neural Engine."
"Look, here is Mm with M1, it has 8 CPU cores, 8-core GPU and 16-core Neural Engine and a fan."
"Look, here is MBP with M1, it has 8 CPU cores, 8-core GPU and 16-core Neural Engine and a fan."
The latest Mac Minis use a 65W desktop part from intel. This one will likely draw 10W or so in the Mini. The fan ensures it won’t thermally throttle.
Quick Edit: The MBP 13” has a 20% larger battery and 10-15% longer reported runtime (20h !!), implying that the fans aren’t used to raise clocks a lot.
- Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip, as well as production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Tested with Unity 2018.3.6f1 using Book of the Dead demo, at 1440x900 resolution. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.
- Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip and 16GB of RAM using select industry-standard benchmarks. Comparison made against the highest-performing integrated GPUs for notebooks and desktops commercially available at the time of testing. Integrated GPU is defined as a GPU located on a monolithic silicon die along with a CPU and memory controller, behind a unified memory subsystem. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.
- Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip, as well as production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Tested with prerelease Shapr3D 3.45.0 using a 288.2MB model. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.
- Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip, as well as production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Tested with Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1.0.1 using the built-in benchmark, at 1440x900 resolution, with medium settings. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.
I had posted this in the A14 thread but I expected as much. The M1 may also end up being used in the next iPad Pro update. The area and power cost for a PCIE 4.0 x8 connection for an eGPU which would be used only in a small number of M1 devices was probably not worth it. Another reason could have been driver maturity for the eGPU as this would be on AMD, who may not be inclined to invest much into the ARM ecosystem.
AMD does not develop or maintain the drivers for macOS. Apple takes responsibility for those things ...
Apple develops the drivers for AMD's mobile GPUs on MacOS?
I am not sure if this is entirely true. Yes, it is bundled with macOS, and AMD offers no standalone distribution. Perhaps the part interfacing with Darwin & IOKit is indeed developed by Apple engineers. (Or potentially on-site/dedicated AMD support engineers, not surprising for huge accounts like Apple or Tier 1 OEMs)AMD does not develop or maintain the drivers for macOS. Apple takes responsibility for those things ...
We already know the answer to this question don't we ?It's fun to read the fooLnotes on Apple's homepage, https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/
The entry level MBP had the Iris Plus Graphics 645 - MBP 13'' with Intel Core i5-8257U (Magic Keyboard), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_5
So if the M1 GPU is so powerfull, why didn't Apple compare it with Ice Lake based MBP 13'' (Iris Plus Graphics G7, LPDDR4X-3733)?