http://www.gainward.de/new/products/ultra_2000/comparison.html
http://www.evga.com/articles/public.asp?AID=188
http://www.bfgtech.com/6800U.html ( BFG GeForceâ„¢ 6800 Ultra OCâ„¢ GPU with Water Block )
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Anandtech: 3DMark worst benchmark ever seen
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http://www.gainward.de/new/products/ultra_2000/comparison.html
http://www.evga.com/articles/public.asp?AID=188
http://www.bfgtech.com/6800U.html ( BFG GeForceâ„¢ 6800 Ultra OCâ„¢ GPU with Water Block )
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Hellbinder
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The "official" extreme editions do not have as high clocked Core or Memory as the supposed extreme edition used in these benchmarks or others. Most sites seem to crank the ultra as far as it will go and call it an "extreme edition" instead of an overclocking test.
Further who knows how many actual "extreme editions" there will be. There is already yield issues on the 400mhz models. To bench a supposed "extreme edition" against a non overclocked XT is benchmark result tampering. Its also intentionally misleading. For what reason i have no idea.
As for the 3dmark comments. It just shows you how powerfull Nvidias deceptive PR still is. It holds swey, infuence, sows seends of doubt, mistrust etc.. Accross the entire internet and there is no telling when and where those seeds take root.
There is no valid technical reason to have views like this about 3dmark. Its nearly all based on total Lies spewed out by Nvidia. I think [H]'s reasoning for not using the benchmark is acceptable becuase they backed it up by changing their entire benchmarking process.
You cant talk crap about 3dmark and in then use Nvidias "special" demos and "recomended demos" and "special drivers" and have even a shred of credability. I am not calling them Biased. Its mostly lacking logic and common sense.
Further who knows how many actual "extreme editions" there will be. There is already yield issues on the 400mhz models. To bench a supposed "extreme edition" against a non overclocked XT is benchmark result tampering. Its also intentionally misleading. For what reason i have no idea.
As for the 3dmark comments. It just shows you how powerfull Nvidias deceptive PR still is. It holds swey, infuence, sows seends of doubt, mistrust etc.. Accross the entire internet and there is no telling when and where those seeds take root.
There is no valid technical reason to have views like this about 3dmark. Its nearly all based on total Lies spewed out by Nvidia. I think [H]'s reasoning for not using the benchmark is acceptable becuase they backed it up by changing their entire benchmarking process.
You cant talk crap about 3dmark and in then use Nvidias "special" demos and "recomended demos" and "special drivers" and have even a shred of credability. I am not calling them Biased. Its mostly lacking logic and common sense.
Hellbinder
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At some point people need to understand the fact that Nvidia are megalomaniacs and THEY want total cotrol over content and methodology going into 3dmark. This kind of attitude is reflected accross all facets of their business practices. They bitch, cry, and especially spread lies when they dont get their way. It's that simple.Nappe1 said:I don't expect next 3DMark favor anyone on purpose. based on information I have heard, nVidia didn't like the 2001 either and they also said it to Futuremark / MadOnion.
(I do not have knowledge which part they didn't like but I suspect that nVidia didn't like seeing original Radeon as close as it was against the GF2GTS and surpassing their best seller GF2MX. After all, Radeon was originally designed to compete against GF256, but it delayed so much that nVidia got already GF2GTS out.)
and again, Anandtech likes what ever nVidia likes. He is just a hand puppet nowadays. Though nVidia is back on beta program, I really can't see nVidia hyping 3DMark 03 nor upcoming version.
EDIT: wrong preposition
Evildeus said:
WTH are you rolling, huh?
I don't see ANY Ultra Extreme, rolling man and I also can't imagine it'd be for Germany only.
Aha... June 4th, 2004 as shipping date? did you see the product page, rolling man? It's July 8th and there's no product listed as Ultra Extreme.
Still no Ultra Extreme, what a surprise...
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Excuse me?
Next time try to interpret a bit first, instead of accidentally typing BS like above, OK?
Well only one is called a ultra extream..... guess you have to make the assumption that they are all UEs... but we know what assuming does. And NONE are for sale. Heck the evga UE isnt even offerd on there own site.....256-A8-N345-AX is but not the 256-A8-N346-AX, but this is realy to be expected. NVDA said they would not have UE chips , but vendors could use the name for handpicked / OC boards. Will there ever be many for sale at all?Evildeus said:
For T2K
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=301021&cks=PRL
One Gainward Extreme at 450Mhz.
And the shipping date is getting closer not further away, it used to be 3rd August.
You need to do some more homework before posting.
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=301021&cks=PRL
One Gainward Extreme at 450Mhz.
And the shipping date is getting closer not further away, it used to be 3rd August.
You need to do some more homework before posting.
karlotta said:
The handpicked 6800U is
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=300417&cks=PRL
up from 400 to 430 but not making the 450 of the Extreme.
The Gainward card is available on the german site (which is the European site) for direct sale. The evga is sold on evga site on special offer. And the BFG on preorders.
http://www.gainward.de/new/shop/index.html
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