AMD Vega 10, Vega 11, Vega 12 and Vega 20 Rumors and Discussion

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Deleted member 13524, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. DavidGraham

    DavidGraham Veteran

    DX12 tests are done with different systems, only compare Pascal to Pascal and Vega to Vega. Cross comparison is not valid.
     
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  2. roybotnik

    roybotnik Newcomer

    I would hope so considering a Ti is $100-200 more (disregarding current pricing insanity).
     
  3. xpea

    xpea Regular

    well no, as they use the Vega 64 liquid cooled edition in the review, which is more expensive than AIB OC 1080Ti
     
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  4. Digidi

    Digidi Regular

    I tested a little bit around with Battlefront2. With 1800x an 720p I get also 320 Fps with my Vega and 100% GPU usage. At Battlefield 1 get 100 Fps and my GPU is spinning around 60% usage.

    Also at 4k and low settings I get 100fps. For me it will be very interesting how a Titan Xp or 1080ti behave at 4k and low settings.
     
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  5. gamervivek

    gamervivek Regular

    GPU usage doesn't tell much about how the chip is being stressed, especially with Vega, I get 70% usage on chip for both 100% power usage and <100W of power usage in GTA V. Either it's not behaving well with Ryzen or the drivers aren't there, either way AMD have lots of work to do.
     
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  6. Who in their right mind would use a 1080 Ti in 720p resolution
     
  7. Silent_Buddha

    Silent_Buddha Legend

    Probably someone looking to see if there are any CPU limitations?

    Regards,
    SB
     
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  8. Grall

    Grall Invisible Member Legend

    For research purposes. Or to play Crysis... :)
     
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  9. Digidi

    Digidi Regular

    For me the values of Battlefront at 4k and low Settings Looks strange. I get only 100 fps. But AMD has reworked the Frontend so i think i should see morre than 100fps without any shader load.

    I'm realy intrested in how 1080ti behaves at this Settings.

    More Intressting stuff. I set Mesh Quality, Terrain Quality, and Terrain groundcover Quality to Ultra at 4k. (All 3 Settings increase the polygoncount, LOD, and tesselation) In 4k i get only 10% performanceloss. I drop from 105fps to 95 fps.
     
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  10. Digidi

    Digidi Regular

    Also i tested now 10k. I get 56 fps at a worst place and with the 3 mesh settings set to Ultra i get 50 fps. Which also is a 10% loss of Performance for more Polygons, LOD and Tesselation.
     
  11. ImSpartacus

    ImSpartacus Regular

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  12. Grall

    Grall Invisible Member Legend

    This is hugely disappointing, unless there's still pieces of the puzzle missing after all this time. Basically the feature isn't doing shit either way from this QnD test.

    AMD's continued stonewalling on the subject isn't good either.
     
  13. Bondrewd

    Bondrewd Veteran

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  14. Bondrewd

    Bondrewd Veteran

    I'll take "primitive shaders are still disabled" for 200.
     
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  15. Grall

    Grall Invisible Member Legend

    Perhaps. And yet again we come back to why they are still disabled after being made such hooplah over for a long time, and now well over three months post-launch and no ETA.

    All we have to fall back on is speculation like "hard things are hard", with no genuine sense of if that's actually what's holding up the show.
     
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  16. Bondrewd

    Bondrewd Veteran

    We don't even know what exactly primitive shaders are. No details.
    I guess hard things are hard.
    They are not retarded enough to get burned by that the third time.
    Vega FE and reference RX Vega already happened because of that.
     
  17. Anarchist4000

    Anarchist4000 Veteran

    Tuned for Raven and the selection likely won't be that reflective of DSBR with all elements enabled. For example. Many Linux games get DirectX wrapped in OpenGL and ultimately end up CPU bound. So even if the feature were enabled, it may not show, and 1080p/low certainly won't help matters.

    They do seem situationally enabled, but if you look at that Linux patch, right under the DSBR it says:
    Code:
    /* While it would be nice not to have this flag, we are constrained
          * by the reality that LLVM 5.0 doesn't have working VGPR indexing
          * on GFX9.
          */
    That file is for controlling the pipeline and primitive binning for Raven is on by default, which may be worth noting. Not a stretch to think indexing could affect binning.
     
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  18. Alessio1989

    Alessio1989 Regular

    Looks only noise to me...
     
  19. xEx

    xEx Veteran

    It's probably just hardware broken.
     
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  20. Bondrewd

    Bondrewd Veteran

    They had all the time in the world to do a base layer spin.
    So no.
     
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