AMD Vega 10, Vega 11, Vega 12 and Vega 20 Rumors and Discussion

Maybe; on the other hand we have two large Swedish hardware websites painting a very different picture: (Can't post a google translate link to the first website, because translate looks like an adblocker to the site... )

https://www.nordichardware.se/nyhet...r-inga-fler-rx-vega-64-kort-6-000-kronor.html

Google Translate excerpts, because I'm too lazy to do it myself - be aware of possible lingual weirdness:

Google translate link:
https://translate.google.se/transla...ingen-av-radeon-rx-vega-64&edit-text=&act=url

Important excerpts: (my emphasis.)

So forgive me for being sceptical if AMD puts blame on retailers for raised prices, as this would seem to be a pattern of behavior of theirs, due to their underreporting of their own retailer prices (presenting supplier cost as retail price.)

Neither website has posted any retractions or further comments from AMD in the days since posting these articles, so as far as I am concerned these facts still stand.

 

@Grall there's an extensive discussion thread already for this, as pointed out. There's no need to derail this thread with it as well.

 

@Malo Sorry, I thought I was posting there already. My bad! I don't think I have power to move my own posts between forums, maybe a mod could help, please...?

 

Seems like a normal product launch with limited supply. Prices always goes higher if all the cards are sold out. The bundle is just AMD trying to cash in on the limited supply so that stores don't get to pocket all the money when they raise prices themselves.

 

you need to make a donation to grease the wheel and get that moving lol

 

Despite all the things gone wrong with the cards and launch, I really like the tech part of Vega. My initial plan before the reviews was to upgrade my Fury X with it, now I won't. But, my "hope" is that AMD is working on a 14nm+ version (7nm is too soon), and it will come pretty quickly and fix some thermal and power consumption problem (and eventually fix other hardware issues). They can't stay like that with Volta on the way (and with the 1080TI already being way more powerfull)

 

There is no "14nm+", there's only 14LPP at their disposal, same that has been since first Polaris even if it has matured on the way.

 

This Volta this, Volta that and "poor Vega as an Volta competitor" ( AMD got hit by their own boomerang ) talk is kind of a recurring theme in posts here.

Do we have any timeline for a desktop Volta replacement for 1070 & 1080? Since JHH said no Volta on desktops this year, I'd speculate we will most likely see something in summer or mid spring at the very earliest.

So Vega will spend a decent ammount of time being beaten "just" by Pascal.

 

Probably first GTC next year

 

Well it's appears on official AMD slides, right after 14nm.

 

I'm aware of the slides, but I'm quite certain it's same mumbojumbo as "Latest generation 14nm FinFET" on RX 500, it's still the same 14LPP since it's the only 14nm process GloFo has. "Latest generation" or "14nm+" almost certainly refers to just maturity of the process

 

Intel does the same thing. It's just indicating that lessons were learned after manufacturing chips in volume and those lessons were used to refine the processor design/process for better performance.

 

So, in theory, and the way they show it on the marketing roadmaps, ok it will be the same process, but with optimisations, right ? In a big chip like Vega, I'm sure they can optimize it, nop ?

 

Think Radeon 480 -> Radeon 580.

 

I'm pretty sure the 14nm+ is for the APUs that will come later this year and that need the best process to contain the TDP of a high performance CPU + high performance GPU, we are talking about 4c8t cpu + 768CU GPU.

I really doubt we're gonna see a current vega with 14+ its too soon, maybe a secound generation vega or maybe another SKU like the Nano.

 

Vega 12 & 20?

 

There is no "14nm+ process"

 

The 14nm+ process is a lie!