AMD Vega 10, Vega 11, Vega 12 and Vega 20 Rumors and Discussion

As far as you know* or as you know for a fact? Remember, people also knew that SK Hynix would not have 8-GiByte HMB gen2 stacks.


*which would be what I also assumed until now.

 

I am not saying it is any of those things, just voicing an idea how the R300 connection could work out.

 

Ah ok sorry, misinterpreted

 

As far as I know. Micron was no.1 critic of HBM and never announced its manufacturing.

 

Micron hasn't said a word about manufacturing HBM or HBM2 memories and has in fact badmouthed HBM compared to their HMC, so I find it more plausible explanation that GPU-Z reads the manufacturer wrong for one reason or another.
The public catalogs of memory manufacturers shouldn't really be used as reference

 

*sigh* some food for thought:
• AMD had no presence in the high end the generation before. R8500 competed with GF3 (TI 500), not GF4. Similarly, Polaris 10 was no match for GP104 full_config and up.
• AMD has new GFX IP (partially in common with new gaming consoles) which enables (and leverages) special optimizations
• Will be the functional foundation for a couple of generations compared to the rather incremental updates between GCN1-4

 

2 8-pin power connectors vs 1080 ... who said power hungry?

 

Will Vega be a match for 1080? (see above for power usage)
Do you suggest that Vega is not GCN-X, but a new/different arch?

 

It's still GCN but it's improved on pretty much all fronts and has new ISA

According to AMD it could have been done with 8+6pin too, at least for the air cooled version. Better safe than sorry probably considering the fuss over RX 480

 

Vega is arguably the greatest incremental improvement of GCN yet, not only focussing on performance but on functionality as well. Whatever it's internal branding apart from GFX IP 9 may be - GCN will suffice for external use I guess.

As to performance: Since I do not have a board at hand, I won't make general statements/assumptions (and that's also why I wrote "impact" and not "performance" in the R300 analogy). I am quite confident though, that Vega will be able to perform at least on par with 1080 TI in certain scenarios (and no, I do not mean canned benchmarks were essentially the level of intentional driver-crippling is shown as in ViewPerf)

 

3DMark Fire Strike Graphics Score of 22,916 with "FireStrike test in game mode (pro mode does not make sense), frequency on GPU all over the place, I am trying to hard set it to 1600 and on the next run, as of now score is not impressive. But colud be my fault."
https://disqus.com/by/klaudiuszkaczmarzyk/
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...c42203033bedec0734972d84317c0a59e4aec1c94.jpg

That's a bit above 1080-Level at FE stock clocks.

 

First benchmark run from that guy



Edit: Link http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12987144

 

My memory has failed me here, you're right! I had both non-Pro and Pro hence easy to misremember.

 

Titan Xp for reference: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12316762

 

AMD are going to have a rough month leading up to SIGGRAPH. They knew this though with their decision to lead with the FE.

 

We will wait for a bit more results to draw a definitive conclusion, but its now easy to understand the "weird" launch without any gaming numbers from AMD...

 

One free advice to AMD marketing team. Next time, give the card to professional websites. Even if the product is not perfect, you can brief them with reviewer guide and direct support. Damage control 101.
Today, its the worst nightmare that happens. A random guy get the card and hurry up to publish a 3DMark number, only God knows with what kind of software and hardware setup. But the only thing people will remember from Vega launch is "meh its not faster than 1080"
Not Well done AMD...

 

It's even worse than that:

Uncontrolled release leading with FE and providing unfinished gaming drivers as well, crazy. And we have a month of this yet?

 

and it's already started...

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-performance-benchmarks-unboxing/

Edit: AMD in panic mode closing all topics on reddit. Like if they wanted to stop people talking about that when the card is available. Hey AMD, internet is in not North Korea !

 

well, it's a good bit faster than Fury X, but, given the clocks it's not impressive, feels like no efficiency gain, so it's probably not the real potential of it?

that benchmark might not be representative... still, this launch is really strange.