Looking through the comments that has FSR and frame gen enabled.
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Looking through the comments that has FSR and frame gen enabled.
DegustatoR
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How on earth do you translate 1080p/High/Unknown RT/Unknown scaling/framegen 211 FPS to a table with 1080p/Medium/No RT/No scaling/framegen where fastest card gets 160 FPS and 7900 XT 108-116 FPS?So about 7900XT level?Monster Hunter Wilds Benchmarks
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DegustatoR
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Easily. You divide 211 by 2 and look at the results of cards available.
Pretty rough estimate, could easily be off by tens of percents
From the screenshot it's indeed with frame generation enabled (the yellow words under the FPS number indicated so).
The quality is the highest setting. If you change upscaling settings it would change the settings to custom so I guess it's not changed, though I don't know what's the default setting with AMD GPU (on NVIDIA GPU it's defaulted to DLSS Quality, so it's probably something similar).
Changing RT does not change the settings to custom so it's unknown if RT is enabled, but since it's disabled by default I guess it's probably disabled.
FSR frame gen is quite a bit faster than DLSS frame gen on this benchmark, but of course it can't 2X the frame rate. Some tests seem to indicate 60% ~ 70% more FPS as reasonable estimates.
Also since it's 1920x1080 it's more likely to be CPU limited, so indeed it can be difficult to see how well it compares to other GPU.
The quality is the highest setting. If you change upscaling settings it would change the settings to custom so I guess it's not changed, though I don't know what's the default setting with AMD GPU (on NVIDIA GPU it's defaulted to DLSS Quality, so it's probably something similar).
Changing RT does not change the settings to custom so it's unknown if RT is enabled, but since it's disabled by default I guess it's probably disabled.
FSR frame gen is quite a bit faster than DLSS frame gen on this benchmark, but of course it can't 2X the frame rate. Some tests seem to indicate 60% ~ 70% more FPS as reasonable estimates.
Also since it's 1920x1080 it's more likely to be CPU limited, so indeed it can be difficult to see how well it compares to other GPU.
AI. "ChapGPT - create a table of GPU performances from this screenshot"
Bondrewd
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It doesn't exist.
If they're ever shipping another halo part, it'll be something very unholy and definitely SoIC.
Even though popular opinion is that AMD needs to offer significantly better perf/$ I don’t know if it actually works in this case. The last time it worked (RV770) AMD had a pretty massive advantage in area efficiency. There’s also the question of whether Nvidia will lower prices in response. It’s a bit of a prisoners dilemma.
Ironically I think AMD’s best chance to gain market share and make money is to up their marketing game. They need to get people excited and proud to own Radeon again so they don’t need a 30% discount before even considering the option. Shipping good hardware is the first step of course but they really need to start talking about what they’re doing to push tech forward. That’s where they’re getting absolutely murdered right now on the marketing front.
This assumes of course that AMD actually wants to sell consumer GPUs.
Ironically I think AMD’s best chance to gain market share and make money is to up their marketing game. They need to get people excited and proud to own Radeon again so they don’t need a 30% discount before even considering the option. Shipping good hardware is the first step of course but they really need to start talking about what they’re doing to push tech forward. That’s where they’re getting absolutely murdered right now on the marketing front.
This assumes of course that AMD actually wants to sell consumer GPUs.
Bondrewd
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RV770 was made way back when Radeon was still a brand, not a corpse. Didn't help them an iota.
Like there's a good reason Tahiti went to 550 buck SRP.
I disagree.
It was an important launch after the disastrous R600 vs G80 battle. It may not have won them back a tonne of market share, but I think it was an important reputation-save for Radeon.
DegustatoR
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Prices - and cards themselves - seem to be leaking all over the planet:
Sales start is set on March 6
Sales start is set on March 6
Bondrewd
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Kinda mixed bag on that. It was an amazing product for the price point target, but them existing the $500+ high-end also painted Radeon as a poverty brand. When they re-entered it with Tahiti, there was a small riot.
What painted them as a poverty brand was more-so the AMD ownership, and the subsequent underinvestment by AMD into RTG. AMD didn't recover from getting Conroe'd until Intel's 14nm++++ nonsense.
Some people complained about Tahiti's pricing -- but people also complained about things like the 8800 Ultra. Still, people bought both.
Tahiti was a premium-looking product beaten by cheapo Kepler. Not good. The Fine Wine™ copium doesn't really strengthen the brand.
What?
Kepler squared-off against Hawaii, not Tahiti. Tahiti was positioned against Fermi and Fermi+, and it did great against both.
Tahiti released 21 months after Fermi (13 months after Fermi+) and 3 months before Kepler. Hawaii released 19 months after Kepler
Now that we’ve seen the 5070 Ti what can AMD do to make a splash. The 5070 Ti trades blows with the 7900 XTX in raster and they end up within 5% of each other on average. The 5070 Ti is 55-70% faster in RT according to HUB’s lineup of “games with impressive RT”.
Surprises aside it’s probably safe to assume the 9070 XT’s performance will fall in line with its specs. It has 20% higher clocks, 80% of the flops and 66% of the bandwidth of the 7900 XTX. RT is also improved but we don’t know how much. Based on those numbers it’s unlikely to get close to the current flagship and likely lands right between the 5070 and 5070 Ti.
$600 with good availability should be enough to turn heads. Of course it’ll be much more fun if performance is greater than specs indicate.
Surprises aside it’s probably safe to assume the 9070 XT’s performance will fall in line with its specs. It has 20% higher clocks, 80% of the flops and 66% of the bandwidth of the 7900 XTX. RT is also improved but we don’t know how much. Based on those numbers it’s unlikely to get close to the current flagship and likely lands right between the 5070 and 5070 Ti.
$600 with good availability should be enough to turn heads. Of course it’ll be much more fun if performance is greater than specs indicate.
