AMD Bulldozer Core Patent Diagrams

2senile said:
Have to say that the return of "FX" worries me tho. Might mean it's toooo pricey for Wifey which will mean I either don't get a new system. ...... or I get a divorce .... ;) :LOL:
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The only way I can see the FX brand return as a 1000 USD option is if it's at the very least as fast if not faster than the best Intel can offer.

Otherwise, it'll be an FX in name but not in price.

Regards,
SB
 
I'm hoping for a bulldozer that doubles my rendering times that i get with my q9550 @ 3.8ghz and i'm hoping to pay less than $500 for it
 
eastmen said:
I'm hoping for a bulldozer that doubles my rendering times that i get with my q9550 @ 3.8ghz and i'm hoping to pay less than $500 for it
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If it doubles your rendering times, it's quite crap....:p
 
AlexV said:
If it doubles your rendering times, it's quite crap....:p
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3dilettante said:
I'm willing to sell a 1.2 GHz Athlon for $499. That'd octuple the time, wouldn't it?
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HAHAHAAA!! :smile:

I can provide K6-2 500MHz with 256MB PC100 memory! Much slower than that Athlon 1.2GHz ;).


Seriously though I have no doubt Bulldozer will be capable of halving rendering time from 3.8GHz Q9550 when OCed! I'm not so sure if this will be possible at stock though (other than in well optimized renderer using FMA/SSE4.2 extensions).
 
I was joyed when I found out that my ASUS Crosshair 4 Extreme would support Bulldozer with nothing more then a BIOS update.

But it seemed too good to be true, So I emailed ASUS and this I got through this morning

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Seems that AM3+ WILL work in AM3 sockets ;)
 
I had the impression this had been known for months. Nonetheless, it is also expected that some features will be lost with BD on AM3 MB (probably thing like aggressive power management or who knows what)
 
It hadn't been known for months at all, ASUS have no only ever said AM3+ support, They're never actually said BULLDOZER support until my email.
 
It's nice to see Asus supporting Bulldozer on their capable AM3 motherboards, and not being too cheap to bother

But from what I have read, it seems that only Asus has AM3+ support on their AM3 motherboards, Gigabyte and the others seem to actually have AM3+ sockets

I feel left out though, I'm sitting on a Gigabyte whose revision is too old:cry:


I don't see the point with supporting AM3 processors on AM3+ motherboards and not AM3+ processors on AM3 motherboards though...
I think the majority had wanted to get a Bulldozer CPU in their old current motherboards, instead of getting an AM3+ motherboard and have their old CPU in it
 
Intel = Socket 1366, 1156, 1155 and the not quite dead 775.

Intel make a decent profit from motherboard chipset sales. I am glad AMD is jumping on the bandwagon. As JF-AMD also explained it would have meant more expense to fully support BD on AM3 and a delay.
 
What exactly have Asus done to support Bulldozer on their newer motherboards then?

I can't see it being that expensive for AMD to have Bulldozer support for at least the later AM3 motherboards, given that Asus has support for the CPUs, despite AMD saying it needs the new socket
 
Ask Asus!

It still saves AMD from having to test and validate their 8 series chipset for BD at any rate.
 
Other manufacturers have 8 series AM3+ mobos, so the chipset is qualified.
They are new revisions with the AM3+ socket though eg Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H

Version 3.0 has AM3 socket
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Version 3.1 has black coloured AM3+ socket, otherwise identical
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I expect that there is something like the 'Thuban in AM2+ socket' situation where the older format missed out on turbo (or was it Cool'nQuiet?) working properly.

Presumably with Bulldozer the difference creates a more severe handicap which would look bad on launch reviews etc so they decided not to support that?
 
hoom said:
Other manufacturers have 8 series AM3+ mobos, so the chipset is qualified.
They are new revisions with the AM3+ socket though eg Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H

Version 3.0 has AM3 socket
http://gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3756/3894.jpg
Version 3.1 has black coloured AM3+ socket, otherwise identical
http://gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3785/4029.jpg
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that mobo has a great slots layout :) and has everything including a serial port header.
only lacks a IOMMU to be the most versatile mobo ever.
 
hoom said:
I expect that there is something like the 'Thuban in AM2+ socket' situation where the older format missed out on turbo (or was it Cool'nQuiet?) working properly.
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I have DDR2 and AM2 + motherboards (AM3 ready), Gigabyte UD3-MA770 rev 2.0 and a 1075 X6 Thuban processors. Works perfectly with the CNQ, C1E and also TurboCore
 
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