9800/9700 Z-fill question.

ChrisRay · Jul 22, 2004

Does the r300 have twice the z-fill with anti aliasing enabled too? I know that r420 line does. And I have been looking everywhere (well at least for the last hour) and I havent been able to find any confirmation/(Or denial) of this case.

digitalwanderer · Jul 22, 2004

Tell me how to test for it and I'll gladly take a few minutes to find out for ya.

Xmas · Jul 22, 2004

"Twice the Z-fill" is actually a bit misleading, as it is still the same number of pixels, but more samples. It's exactly what you would expect of MSAA-capable GPUs as long as they don't carry the name Rampage, and yes, the R300 does the same.

ChrisRay · Jul 22, 2004

It's here. I'll post my results in a second.

Mind doing it with No AA/2xAA/4xAA? thanks

Chris

http://www.boxrick.plus.com/frate.zip

ChrisRay · Jul 22, 2004

Xmas said:
"Twice the Z-fill" is actually a bit misleading, as it is still the same number of pixels, but more samples. It's exactly what you would expect of MSAA-capable GPUs as long as they don't carry the name Rampage, and yes, the R300 does the same.

Sorry thats what I meant, Someone over at futuremark is telling me the r300 reacts similarly with AA/AF enabled and its z-fill doubles. I would expect the card just to perform its z-fill similar to its normal pixel fill rate.

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:03:40 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 8256 FPS
                  Color Fill : 3757.258 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 7451.601 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2524.132 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1925.186 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1293.523 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 978.9506 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1925.186 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3396.967 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

  FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:15:49 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 7078.4 FPS
                  Color Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2493.933 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1920.152 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1293.523 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 973.9174 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1920.152 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3330.697 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

  FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:09:10 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 2944 FPS
                  Color Fill : 2564.397 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 2088.763 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 2559.364 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2423.469 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1940.285 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1301.073 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 978.9506 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1940.285 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3405.775 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 2566.914 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 2566.914 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

These are all done with a 6800NU @ 325/900

Cryect · Jul 22, 2004

Could you also try those with D24S8 since thats mainly whats used in games?

Code:

System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz
        GFX : RADEON 9800 PRO 
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 5312 FPS
                  Color Fill : 2466.251 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2531.682 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1962.934 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 2632.345 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1809.423 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1482.267 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 981.4672 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 737.3586 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1457.101 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2415.709 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 2649.961 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 2654.994 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 2665.061 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 2665.061 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 2685.193 M-Pixel/s

Code:

Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 60313.6 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1771.674 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2353.005 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1250.741 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1699.952 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1698.693 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1330.014 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 922.3275 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 704.6431 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1333.789 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2413.717 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1771.674 M-Pixel/s

Code:

Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D16  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 60217.6 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1584.189 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 1435.71 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 921.0691 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1513.724 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1513.724 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1279.682 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 932.3937 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 713.4511 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1308.623 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2407.845 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1447.035 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1445.777 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 1447.035 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1445.777 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1584.189 M-Pixel/s

Code:

 Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 5312 FPS
                  Color Fill : 2682.677 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2639.895 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 2028.365 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 2632.345 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1809.423 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1482.267 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 981.4672 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 737.3586 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1457.101 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2416.968 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 2649.961 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 2657.511 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 2654.994 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 2665.061 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 2685.193 M-Pixel/s

Code:

Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 30067.2 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1769.157 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2290.09 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1218.026 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1698.693 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1696.177 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1328.755 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 918.5526 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 702.1265 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1331.272 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2416.968 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1635.779 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 1633.262 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1638.295 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1769.157 M-Pixel/s

Code:

Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 30105.6 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1582.93 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 1328.755 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 918.5526 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1512.466 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1512.466 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1275.907 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 931.1355 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 712.1927 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1308.623 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 2414.661 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1444.518 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1444.518 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 1447.035 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1444.518 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1582.93 M-Pixel/s

PeterAce · Jul 22, 2004

You might also wan't to look at this :

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewt...p;postorder=asc&highlight=rop&start=0

digitalwanderer · Jul 22, 2004

Bubbles said:
FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:09:12 PM

System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP
GFX : RADEON 9700 PRO (Omega 2.5.58)
OS : Microsoft Windows XP
Settings : 1024x768 32 bits D16 No AA

Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
FrameBuffer Clear : 4851.2 FPS
Color Fill : 2400.82 M-Pixel/s
Z Fill : 2164.261 M-Pixel/s
Color + Z Fill : 1769.157 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture : 2433.535 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1598.03 M-Pixel/s
Dual Textures : 1283.457 M-Pixel/s
Triple Textures : 845.5717 M-Pixel/s
Quad Textures : 634.1788 M-Pixel/s
1 Floating Poing Texture : 1255.775 M-Pixel/s
Render to Self : 2316.514 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.1 Simple : 2443.601 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.4 Simple : 2443.601 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Simple : 2443.601 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 PP Simple : 2443.601 M-Pixel/s
Customized Pixel Shader : 2481.35 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
* End of FillrateBenchmark Result

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:22:48 PM

System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP
GFX : RADEON 9700 PRO (Omega 2.5.58)
OS : Microsoft Windows XP
Settings : 1024x768 32 bits D16 2x FSAA

Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
FrameBuffer Clear : 62297.6 FPS
Color Fill : 1585.447 M-Pixel/s
Z Fill : 2023.332 M-Pixel/s
Color + Z Fill : 1129.946 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture : 1525.049 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1522.532 M-Pixel/s
Dual Textures : 1172.727 M-Pixel/s
Triple Textures : 802.7897 M-Pixel/s
Quad Textures : 609.013 M-Pixel/s
1 Floating Poing Texture : 1165.178 M-Pixel/s
Render to Self : 2307.287 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.1 Simple : 1469.684 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.4 Simple : 1469.684 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Simple : 1469.684 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1469.684 M-Pixel/s
Customized Pixel Shader : 1587.963 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:26:15 PM

System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP
GFX : RADEON 9700 PRO (Omega 2.5.58)
OS : Microsoft Windows XP
Settings : 1024x768 32 bits D16 4x FSAA

Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
FrameBuffer Clear : 62297.6 FPS
Color Fill : 1447.035 M-Pixel/s
Z Fill : 1240.675 M-Pixel/s
Color + Z Fill : 843.0551 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture : 1386.637 M-Pixel/s
Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1386.637 M-Pixel/s
Dual Textures : 1155.111 M-Pixel/s
Triple Textures : 807.8229 M-Pixel/s
Quad Textures : 614.0461 M-Pixel/s
1 Floating Poing Texture : 1157.628 M-Pixel/s
Render to Self : 2307.077 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.1 Simple : 1318.689 M-Pixel/s
PS 1.4 Simple : 1318.689 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Simple : 1318.689 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1318.689 M-Pixel/s
Customized Pixel Shader : 1444.518 M-Pixel/s
PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
* End of FillrateBenchmark Result

2500+, NF7-s, 200x10, 9700 pro non-OCed w/Omegadrive's 4.7s. (Sorry it took, making dinner for the kids.

)

ChrisRay · Jul 22, 2004

Of course.

Code:

    FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:33:06 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 9318.4 FPS
                  Color Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 7454.117 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2519.099 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1925.186 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1293.523 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 978.9506 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1925.186 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3396.547 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:35:03 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 8499.2 FPS
                  Color Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 3767.324 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2493.933 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1920.152 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1293.523 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 973.9174 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1920.152 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3325.244 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 3764.807 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 3762.291 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 3507.2 FPS
                  Color Fill : 2564.397 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2571.947 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 2516.583 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 2554.331 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2420.952 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1940.285 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 1301.073 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 978.9506 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1940.285 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 3398.645 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 2566.914 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 2566.914 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 2566.914 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 2569.43 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Xmas · Jul 22, 2004

Interesting... it seems as though the 6800 has one quad PS pipeline disabled, but still all ROPs active.
32 * 325 = 10400, the maximum # of samples it can do per clock, so it's still 2600MPixel/s at 4xAA.

Dave Baumann · Jul 22, 2004

Xmas said:
Interesting... it seems as though the 6800 has one quad PS pipeline disabled, but still all ROPs active.
32 * 325 = 10400, the maximum # of samples it can do per clock, so it's still 2600 at 4xAA.

I've been thinking about this and wondering if it was the case or not.

To get the double pumped Z/Stencil in the first place I believe they bypass the fragement pipeline, and if you remember back to the diagrams of the layout it looks like the ROP's are effectively crossbarred anyway. When they trune off a "quad pipeline" that appears to be only turning off the fragment shader pipeline, but because the ROP's are disassociated from that doesn't mean a ROP is disabled as well, so it will still be available to dispatch two quads directly to it in Z/Stencil mode.

ChrisRay · Jul 22, 2004

Just posting my 5900 results to keep this complete.

Code:

   Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:51:07 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm)
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 2636.8 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1535.115 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 1575.38 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1175.244 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1263.324 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1361.471 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1124.912 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 644.2451 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 460.5345 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1094.713 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 942.2504 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1127.429 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1127.429 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 452.9848 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1127.429 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1489.817 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

 FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:48:49 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm)
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 5273.6 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1552.731 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2994.733 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1522.532 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1268.358 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1265.841 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1200.41 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 666.8943 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 468.0844 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1172.727 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 846.4106 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1137.495 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1134.979 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 470.6009 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1137.495 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1520.016 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)

Code:

 FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 5:46:28 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm)
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 5964.8 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1517.499 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 3014.866 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1517.499 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1514.983 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1374.054 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1215.509 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 729.8089 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 515.8994 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 1598.03 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 1078.985 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1580.414 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1504.916 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 513.3828 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1580.414 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1608.096 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

400/850 clocks.

Cryect · Jul 23, 2004

Alright here's quick graph of the data (negligable difference between 32 bit Z-Buffer and 16 Bit Z-Buffer or lets say not any you could tell on a graph at this scale

)

oddfellow · Jul 23, 2004

Here's my 128MB FX5900XT results
(O/C'd 450/850)

No AA

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 23/07/2004 00:57:42

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT
         OS : Microsoft Windows 2000
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 5376 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1811.939 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 3427.585 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1809.423 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1761.608 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1404.253 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1509.949 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 827.9556 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 573.7808 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : (Unsupported)
              Render to Self : 1142.109 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1761.608 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1761.608 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 583.8472 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1514.983 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1517.499 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

2xAA

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 23/07/2004 01:01:29

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT
         OS : Microsoft Windows 2000
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 4326.4 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1741.475 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 2987.183 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1723.859 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1361.471 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1356.438 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1285.974 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 719.7426 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 510.8662 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : (Unsupported)
              Render to Self : 849.3466 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1107.296 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1107.296 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 495.7668 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1207.96 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1743.992 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

4xAA

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 23/07/2004 01:04:14

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT
         OS : Microsoft Windows 2000
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 2380.8 FPS
                  Color Fill : 1738.958 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 1671.011 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 1258.291 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 1361.471 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 1399.22 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 1124.912 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 681.9938 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 503.3165 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : (Unsupported)
              Render to Self : 994.8889 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 1177.76 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 1177.76 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 493.2502 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 1180.277 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 1540.148 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

SsP45 · Jul 23, 2004

GeForce 6800 GT @ Ultra speeds for any who cares

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 10:43:59 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  No AA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 10316.8 FPS
                  Color Fill : 6059.931 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 11342.24 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 4645.611 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 6057.414 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 3037.515 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 2121.479 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 1592.997 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 4079.17 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 5425.752 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 5418.202 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 5420.718 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 5420.718 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 6057.414 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 10:48:22 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  2x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 9664 FPS
                  Color Fill : 6059.931 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 6064.963 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 5307.472 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 5916.486 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 3040.032 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 2121.479 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 1592.997 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 4069.733 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 5342.705 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 5342.705 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 5342.705 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 5340.188 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 6054.897 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

Code:

FillrateBenchmark(tm) 2004 - "easy benchmark series"

    Benchmark Main Program Version: FRB_V092
    Benchmark Date/Time : 7/22/2004 10:50:28 PM

                     System Information
-----------------------------------------------------------
        CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
        GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
         OS : Microsoft Windows XP
   Settings : 1024x768  32 bits  D24S8  4x FSAA

                      Benchmark Result
-----------------------------------------------------------
           FrameBuffer Clear : 3916.8 FPS
                  Color Fill : 3168.377 M-Pixel/s
                      Z Fill : 3168.377 M-Pixel/s
              Color + Z Fill : 2929.302 M-Pixel/s
              Single Texture : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
  Single Texture Alpha Blend : 2785.856 M-Pixel/s
               Dual Textures : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
             Triple Textures : 2131.545 M-Pixel/s
               Quad Textures : 1600.546 M-Pixel/s
    1 Floating Poing Texture : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
              Render to Self : 4879.863 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.1 Simple : 3165.861 M-Pixel/s
               PS 1.4 Simple : 3165.861 M-Pixel/s
               PS 2.0 Simple : 3165.861 M-Pixel/s
            PS 2.0 PP Simple : 3165.861 M-Pixel/s
     Customized Pixel Shader : 3163.344 M-Pixel/s
              PS 2.0 Complex : (Unsupported)
           PS 2.0 PP Complex : (Unsupported)
     PS 2.0 Massive Register : (Unsupported)
  PS 2.0 PP Massive Register : (Unsupported)
 PS 2.0 Sincos Procedure Tex : (Unsupported)
   PS 2.0 Per-Pixel Lighting : (Unsupported)
-----------------------------------------------------------
    * End of FillrateBenchmark Result

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991060 · Jul 23, 2004

I recalled that 4 pipelines R3xx's Z-fill double under 2x/4x/6x AA while 8 pipelines R3xx's Z-fill only double under 4x/6x AA, I could be wrong of course, it's been a long time.

AndrewM · Jul 23, 2004

DaveBaumann said:
Xmas said:

Interesting... it seems as though the 6800 has one quad PS pipeline disabled, but still all ROPs active.
32 * 325 = 10400, the maximum # of samples it can do per clock, so it's still 2600 at 4xAA.

Click to expand...

I've been thinking about this and wondering if it was the case or not.

To get the double pumped Z/Stencil in the first place I believe they bypass the fragement pipeline, and if you remember back to the diagrams of the layout it looks like the ROP's are effectively crossbarred anyway. When they trune off a "quad pipeline" that appears to be only turning off the fragment shader pipeline, but because the ROP's are disassociated from that doesn't mean a ROP is disabled as well, so it will still be available to dispatch two quads directly to it in Z/Stencil mode.

This could possibly explain some of the Doom3 scores, no?

KimB · Jul 23, 2004

Xmas said:
Interesting... it seems as though the 6800 has one quad PS pipeline disabled, but still all ROPs active.
32 * 325 = 10400, the maximum # of samples it can do per clock, so it's still 2600MPixel/s at 4xAA.

Hrm, that's the explaination I was looking for. Yes, after looking at the GT results, that must be the case. Now I just wish the 6800 non-Ultra had 256MB of RAM. With the high texture requirements of some games (UT2k4, Far Cry, in particular), it really needs it.

KimB · Jul 23, 2004

AndrewM said:
This could possibly explain some of the Doom3 scores, no?

Well, I think it only affects the non-Ultra.

Cryect · Jul 23, 2004

New updated graph and does the 6800 GT really make the rest look bad or what in Z-Fillrate. Though it definately gets better once AA gets applied and those non GF6800's get their double boost while the 6800 doesn't.

9800/9700 Z-fill question.

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