360 "almost" hacked?
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everybody would easily call it a hoax, but the fact that it was presented on that hackers conference thats been running for so many years gives it credibility.
we'll see...
we'll see...
Fu3lFr3nzy
Regular
Wait, so what was the video about? :| all I saw was king kong then a linux wallpaper?
It's supposed to be an exploit from within King Kong that has allowed the running of a small homebrew demo.
I actually posted about this in my other topic, but I guess nobody noticed. :smile:
I actually posted about this in my other topic, but I guess nobody noticed. :smile:
Well, sorry, but I didn't..
It's very easy to call it a hoax because it was done using King Kong. It is known that it's possible to change the data for King Kong because it shaders, etc, are plain files on the DVD (and was done in the past using the Kiosk Demo Disk that could be modified). If it was demonstrated using some other game there would be more credibility. That said, it might be something new, which would be quite interesting, but there isn't enough actual evidence that its something that's actually new.
It would be far more interesting and legitimate looking if it was a very basic demo that kills the execution of the running program and does 'something' even if it opens the DVD tray or something stupid that shows that it is doing something that can't be done in any other way. If doing code injection you wan't to take complete control of the machine... and the demo doesn't look like that's actually happened.
It would be far more interesting and legitimate looking if it was a very basic demo that kills the execution of the running program and does 'something' even if it opens the DVD tray or something stupid that shows that it is doing something that can't be done in any other way. If doing code injection you wan't to take complete control of the machine... and the demo doesn't look like that's actually happened.
Hm, that's interesing. On some games (I know one ;-) ) you can achieve the same effect only by modifying the postprocessing shader file (.FX) and adding a texture in the same folder.
are we talking about a new hack here? because there is an old 360 hack (software based) that has been avaialbe for months. it is used by flashing the disk drive memory and changing it with something else.
there are also multiple hardware modchips advertised in many sites that claim you don't need to flash the disk drive memory and that you can use LIVE normally.
just google it and you'll see many sites offering shipping and instructions on how to use it with reviews and what have you.
there are also multiple hardware modchips advertised in many sites that claim you don't need to flash the disk drive memory and that you can use LIVE normally.
just google it and you'll see many sites offering shipping and instructions on how to use it with reviews and what have you.
Yes. This is supposed to show they can run their own (unsigned) code.
But I don't buy it.
Yes, this is different. The firmware hack and the associated modchips fool the box into accepting DVD-Rs as factory burned DVD-ROMs, and allow you to play the original, signed executables. This hack here supposedly shows running unsigned code on the box, which would be a major breakthrough against the security system. I think this conference is pretty big-name and "serious" (as far as "hacker" conferences go), I'm not inclined to think they would show fakes... on the other hands, I'm not sure old school German hackers like the organizers would be that familiar with the console scene to judge whether it's worthy for admission or not, after all, it's displaying a penguin on a MS box, so it must be cool, right?
Followup: actually it was totally cracked (and patched subsequently).
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/461489/30/0/threaded
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/461489/30/0/threaded
Rainbow Man
Veteran
I love how the person describes the procedure as some form of hostile attack rather than being able to do what everybody rightfully ought to be able to - which is run whatever we want whenever we want on a piece of hardware we've bought and paid for.
Peace.
Peace.
You can, it's called your PC. And look how great that security turned out? No thanks, I'd rather not have virus, spam and spyware ruining my game experience.
Tommy McClain
It actually turned out pretty great in operating systems that don't give every program and its brother root access by default.
It actually works pretty great for programs that don't require root access to even breathe - which is, in my experience, virtually every non-MS application out there.
There's a difference between interpreting "we" as in "i" want, and what "others" want.
