1080p HDR image better than 4k non HDR ?

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  1. TheAlSpark

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    The problem is their voice though.
     
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    I think that was a not so subtle jab at ps4p's checkboard rendering tech.
     
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    I am in the same situation. I got a TV each generation of consoles, accordingly, a HD Ready TV for the X360, a Fulll HD TV when I switched generations in 2013, a couple of months ago the new consoles came out, and now I am thinking about getting a new TV next year, 4K HDR, 1000 nits or candelas and affordable.

    But this 1080p set turned out to be soooo good that I want a 4k panel but I am not in a hurry. A projector is out of the equation 'cos afaik it doesn't produce HDR.
     
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    I have the 43" Sony X800D as an upgrade to my 32" XBR6. It's great.
    Here's an informative review, and a link to the official avs forum thread for it, for those interested.
    http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d
    http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...ony-2016-xbr-43x800d-x800d-owners-thread.html
    Fwiw, while in a room with the shades drawn I can keep the brightness at its lowest setting, so it's rating of being just 375cd/m² shouldn't scare off those looking to use it for PC gaming. http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/peak-brightness

    I posted a review at Best Buy after having it a while.
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-43...h-dynamic-range-black/4801700.p?skuId=4801700
     
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    Now DF is also echoing on the same matter, makes me think this HDR thing is almost like a PS4-PS5 leap.
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216877480&postcount=102
    Although I'd wager HDR effect is much better on a 1000nits+ LED tv than a 600nits OLED as been confirmed by the professional HDTV testers.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...ed-in-public-tv-shoot-out-shock/#6b73bdce6fde
     
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    ...it isn't really, but according to Samsung only 20% of the population watches TV in a dark room, and depending how bright the room is , the difference between 500-1000-4000 nits is nothing significant. Sony's latest local dimming TV is also some 60% heavier than OLED, and I don't think you will see that "trickling down" into 30" size, and as you said OLED is 5-600 nits (and that already takes a toll on motion handling, there's a good chance it's either HFR or 500nits ).
     
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    I have to wonder how Samsung know this.
     
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    There's a reason they put those cameras in your Smart TV, and it isn't Skype...
     
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    Which is incredible considering any PS4 got this from a firmware upgrade.

    Now all I need is $30,000 to upgrade my projector, and pay my debts. Kutaragi was right all along, I need a second job to play video games!:runaway:
     
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    Even my 8 years old Panasonic TV has a small light sensor
     
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    Has it been revealed how the ps4 hdr will actually work yet?
     
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    Presumably, it's a question stemming from how they can generalize the population when not 100% of consumers (let alone samsung TV owners) have hooked up the TV to the intarweb.

    nofunallowed.jpg
     
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    Yeah, it was for sure a generalization on Samsung part.

    Anyway, I´ve got the Big Brother shot, my appliance is spying on us, lol
     
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    In a dark room the difference is huge. Left Samsung 1400nits, center Sony Z9D 1800nits, right LG Oled 600nits
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    In a bright room the difference is also significant.
    X930d is 1000nits, X940d is 700nits compared to 1800nits Z9D
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    And regularly beams the light level and viewing hours back to Samsung?
     
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    Nope, my Panny it´s not one of those chinese brandless electronics with a chip inside calling home, so they say :)

    It was probably a generalization by Samsung, they get the usage pattern from their customers in those smart connected Tvs, well you know that.
     
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    ohh gee, why nits for luminance ... use SI units. It's cd/m2.
     
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    You know, as a layman, I find nit much easier to type than cd/m2 ... it looks better too. As the conversion is 1-1, if cd/m2 is becoming a thing in conversations about HDR TVs, I'm totally for bringing back nit.
     
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    I went to Walmart the other day and compared 1080P displays vs. 4K displays. The 4K displays did look clearer and better, but not by a huge amount. I had to get very close (perhaps a foot away) to see the pixels in the 4K monitor. However, I also had to get pretty close to see them in the 1080P monitor/TV. At the normal distance I would be gaming if I were to get a console and monitor, I wouldn't notice a big difference.

    If I were to go out and buy a display, I'd stick with 1080P unless I was wealthy and had money to burn.
     
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