Hard to get reliable data, isn't it? Wipeout should be on this list, for instance.
Well, since you are the one who made the "plenty of PSP games past 1 million" quote in the 1st place, why don't
you provide your own set of (hopefully more reliable) data to prove your point ? I provided a link, with which you disagree (btw, the Wikipedia entry provided by Darkblu is currently locked because of controversy and inaccuracies). Yes, all we have are estimations. But those estimations are at least extrapolated from actual data. You can argue about the details of said extrapolation, but before that either show us your own data on those many under the radar PSP Platinum games, or explain us how 4 games (giving you Wipeout) constitute "plenty".
Not really. The 20 million shipped figure was of several months ago. I've made the bold assumption that since then, both systems have sold a fair number.
You are still comparing shipped data (PSP) vs sold data (DS). In August, data gathered from NPD (US actual sales), Media Create (JP actual sales) and Sony PR (4.5 millions PSP actually sold in EU) pointed toward over 4 millions PSP in inventory/retail channel/repair (since Sony's definition of shipped numbers include anything out of the assembly line). There's no way that at its current rate the PSP has sold 4 millions since August (it sold under 150K in US in August, and sells between 25K and 40K a week in Japan). DS sold 278K in August (US), sells over 150K each week in Japan, and last data we got from Europe was 140K a week (may be less now since the DSLite novelty factor probably wore off a bit).
If I was doing damage control I would have somehow tried to embezzle that 5 million gap that the DS has made between itself and the PSP - though to be frank, it may well be more than 5 million by now - probably more like 6 million, maybe 7-8 even - shame we don't have any reliable sales outside of Japan, especially Europe. But it's still fairly clear that most of that difference is made in Japan.
So just because you could make completely outlandish claims, your argument doesn't constitute damage control ? Saying that the PSP has "plenty" of million sellers is an example of damage control in the purest form. Using the gap between PSP "out of factory" numbers and DS sold numbers as some kind of relevant data is another example.
I'm not doing any damage control, just trying to help people keep a balanced, realistic view. This is necessary because a lot of people seem to lose perspective.
And what better way is there to keep perspective than calling 4 games "plenty" ? After all, actual handheld sales figures have a well-known Nintendo-bias, so some matter of "balance" is needed.
you'll be hard pressed to find quotes from me stating that the PSP would wipe the DS off the market.
You know, my comment was not necessary about you. Scrolling through various forums, it's pretty easy to find bullish quotes (and not only by Sony fanb0ys) on how the PSP was gonna crush the DS.
Thanks for the link on better revenue per unit for the PSP, I remember this conversation. Revenue per unit is a bit of a misleading notion, though, since it doesn't take into account development costs and actual sales.
