9800X3D releases Nov 7th, review embargo on Nov 6th

gigabyte x870 auros elite wifi 7. Computer store here is selling bundles with the cpu, ram and motherboard together. The ram is pretty basic, but essentially worked out to be free based on the bundle discount.
Nice. X870 has pretty much everything I'd want in a platform. That wasn't the case with X670. It lacks the 16xPCIe5 connectivity which is something I would want in a computer that I'll keep for many years. The things that X870 loses vs X670 (less USB, SATA, PCIe lanes) don't really matter to me.

Also there have been rumors of some fairly high performing GPUs coming up that have only 8xPCIe5 connections. So PCIe5 might matter sooner than we think.
 
Yeah, I felt like the X870 made a lot of sense for a new PCIe 5 build. My B550 did everything I wanted back when I bought it, and honestly still continues to deliver even to this day in my Proxmox rig now.
 
They have pci-e 4.0 x16 which is the same bandwidth as pci-e 5.0 x8 there are no pci-e 5.0 graphics cards
I read a while back that the 5070 would be PCIe5.0x8. Latest rumors say it's 5.0x16 but if some cards release in the future with only 8x PCIe I think it'd be best if those were PCIe5 lanes. 4.0x8 might cause some issues on say something like a 6060. This is one of the reasons I got a Z790 even with only a 13600K. I have an irrational fear of bottlenecks.
 
Got my 9800x3d today. Running everything at defaults. Haven't messed with memory at all. Seems pretty nice. Most games I'm gpu-limited still, but I actually hadn't thought about 1% lows, and they are better than my 5800x3d. My 5800x3d was on an old motherboard with memory that probably limited it a little. Only played poe2 and Fortnite and both felt a bit smoother and 1% lows look pretty good. But other than that won't be a huge difference until I get a new gpu. We'll see once I have it undervolted with tuned memory. Then maybe it'll feel really good.
 
Got my 9800x3d today. Running everything at defaults. Haven't messed with memory at all. Seems pretty nice. Most games I'm gpu-limited still, but I actually hadn't thought about 1% lows, and they are better than my 5800x3d. My 5800x3d was on an old motherboard with memory that probably limited it a little. Only played poe2 and Fortnite and both felt a bit smoother and 1% lows look pretty good. But other than that won't be a huge difference until I get a new gpu. We'll see once I have it undervolted with tuned memory. Then maybe it'll feel really good.
You gonna get a 5080/5090 when they come out?
 
Max out what you can to lower latency. It’ll mean more for lows than core boost.
Yeah, agreed with this after about two weeks of tinkering. I'm back to air cooling for this generation, using a Noctua D15 with the dual 120mm fans. I've been using y-cruncher and Cinebench to estimate where my best performance comes from, and both single + multicore results always seem to favor memory at 3100 MHz CL30 (6200 Mt/s) with UCLK 1:1 and FCLK at 2066 and the CPU undervolted by 25mV on all cores. I can push a 100MHz overclock with a little less undervolt (only -20mV) however the temps step up by several degrees while benchmark results are within the run-to-run error variance of stock clocks. At a 200MHz overclock with -10MHz undervolt, any all-core benches run into the thermal limit at 95*c and the benches actually go down. Single CPU is finally measurably faster than stock, but only by just a few percent at best.

Memory :: UCLK :: FCLK is really where the performance is on these. If I really decided to overclock this puppy, I'd go custom water loop so I could de-lid the proc and use a direct-die waterblock. Otherwise I feel like you're fighting a losing battle with the thermals...
 
Nice! And yeah, max out fclk. Keep uclk/mclk as high are they’ll go in sync. Then tighten timings.

Annoyingly, fclk want less vsoc while uclk and mclk want more. So gotta find a sweet spot.
 
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