It depends if it is just cosmetic. If so, fine. Good luck to those willing to pay for a same gun with a different skin. 
Sony To Hold Hour And A Half Investor/Analyst Meeting On November 19th
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But how is that member only? I'm not saying that it isn't a good idea though.
It depends if it is just cosmetic. If so, fine. Good luck to those willing to pay for a same gun with a different skin.
There is nothing like buying a golden gun to make you stand out like a flare on the battlefield.
Its not much different. My objection would be just because I want it limited. Right now its like having bits and pieces of a game all over the place with all the dlc and preorder bonuses. Its hard to consider buying a single bluray or dvd game complete anymore, premium content would just be adding to the mess.
Trophy alerts was the funniest one there. That needs explaining.
A lot of the things there are OK as cornsnake said and I would think that they are compelling enough to bring in those willing to pay without including things that should be free. They would also put PSN over live in terms of features with subscription. Free game trials, free psone games etc...
Eastmen's link has descriptions..
oh, didn't notice. Seeing that then trophy alerts are the exact type of things i don't mind being premium only.
Should be free.
gambling? lol, almost sounds like it. This might be better off free so gamers more often buy the same games their friends own in order to compete.
This will piss the most ppl off if its not free.
If non-premium members can buy these same games this would be dumb. Why prevent them from buying the same time as premium members? Holding back demos would be nothing more than making some ps3 owners second class citizens, same with betas.
This is another pointless one. It would be something the console is expected to do once it supports netflix, its like having to buy a remote for the first xbox just to play dvd movies that it already supported.
My ps3 can do that?!?
My fear right now is that they are indeed holding back features from the ps3 till they work out how they want to setup their subscription. Not allowing cross game chat for one till they know whether they are going to make us pay for it, and same with the netflix bit
Some of the options are also already available. Certainly VidZone is free in the EU. Not sure who in NA would vote to pay for that service. Likewise BBC iPlayer doesn't cost a penny. I don't know about the other British online channels whcih may require PC applications to view, but if the webbrowser were actually any good, it'd allow all the online services. It'd be cheap and sneaky to gimp Flash playback in the browser and then create an XMB Flash player to show subscription TV on!
For me, almost none of the listed features are worth anything. What I want is voice party chat and also a PC linkup. Live! is excellent in letting Messenger users still communicate. Whereas if I'm busy on PC while a friend is on PSN, I can't contact them to say 'I'll be online in 30 minutes, let's play U2.' Messenger integration is never going to happen, but a Windows Vista/7 gadget could do the job I think. Or the PSN website at a push.
For me, almost none of the listed features are worth anything. What I want is voice party chat and also a PC linkup. Live! is excellent in letting Messenger users still communicate. Whereas if I'm busy on PC while a friend is on PSN, I can't contact them to say 'I'll be online in 30 minutes, let's play U2.' Messenger integration is never going to happen, but a Windows Vista/7 gadget could do the job I think. Or the PSN website at a push.
The Engadget story is based on a Kotaku one & it has the pricing...
http://kotaku.com/5429592/sony-surv...ion-network-subscriptions-under-consideration
Option 1 seems like one most like Live Gold + plus has a lot more. I like the idea of the extended warranty. Microsoft charges $30 for just a year of extended service. So with that said $70 wouldn't be so bad. I would probably pay for that.
Option 4 is a joke @ $70/year. I also wouldn't pay $70/year for option 2. Unless some of things it's missing compared to Option 1 is included for free. Option 3 is also a little too lean for $30/year. You basically just get Cross Game chat.
MSN Messenger is crap. I don't know any of my friends who have that. It needs to be dropped in favor of your choice of Facebook or Twitter. BTW, I will agree though that if you're on your PC being able to send text messages to your friends via Xbox.com or third party apps like XBLFriends(PC) or 360Live(iPhone) is really nice(provided you have Gold of course).
Tommy McClain
http://kotaku.com/5429592/sony-surv...ion-network-subscriptions-under-consideration
Kotaku said:
Option 1 seems like one most like Live Gold + plus has a lot more. I like the idea of the extended warranty. Microsoft charges $30 for just a year of extended service. So with that said $70 wouldn't be so bad. I would probably pay for that.
Option 4 is a joke @ $70/year. I also wouldn't pay $70/year for option 2. Unless some of things it's missing compared to Option 1 is included for free. Option 3 is also a little too lean for $30/year. You basically just get Cross Game chat.
MSN Messenger is crap. I don't know any of my friends who have that. It needs to be dropped in favor of your choice of Facebook or Twitter. BTW, I will agree though that if you're on your PC being able to send text messages to your friends via Xbox.com or third party apps like XBLFriends(PC) or 360Live(iPhone) is really nice(provided you have Gold of course).
Tommy McClain
The survey looks somewhat like conjoint analysis.
...which can reduce all the different feature combos into a distinct few for users to choose (including pricing). This helps to reduce the survey size.
I can't remember the details anymore but it's pretty cool. If it's conjoint analysis, this means that the final package may be none of Option 1-4. That may also explain why Option 4 is a "joke", it's there to compete the mathematical analysis of your preferences.
In all analysis, the users still need a good grasp of what they are looking at. And yes, those terms need to be defined and experienced by user. I supposed -- if they want -- they can do it twice, once for users who don't know the details, and another time for people who experienced it. I'd say the second is more valid/important since many consumers will try to find out what they are paying for.
...which can reduce all the different feature combos into a distinct few for users to choose (including pricing). This helps to reduce the survey size.
I can't remember the details anymore but it's pretty cool. If it's conjoint analysis, this means that the final package may be none of Option 1-4. That may also explain why Option 4 is a "joke", it's there to compete the mathematical analysis of your preferences.
In all analysis, the users still need a good grasp of what they are looking at. And yes, those terms need to be defined and experienced by user. I supposed -- if they want -- they can do it twice, once for users who don't know the details, and another time for people who experienced it. I'd say the second is more valid/important since many consumers will try to find out what they are paying for.
I agree Sony should focus on a minimal set of base services first, since most users are unlikely to pay for services they don't need. I think the survey is supposed to tell them what services are popular, and also what price to charge for different combo. Don't worry about the exact feature combo for Option 1-4.
I blew up on the survey news because the result will affect us all and yet it seems to be taken lightly. I am afraid they may learn the wrong things from the survey if it is not conducted properly. The second point is they need to put the integrated user experience ahead of all the individual features. The overall experience and benefits is what people pay for, definitely not the bullet items. They are not selling a toaster here.
On a different note:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/12/20/qriocity-the-name-of-a-new-sony-handheld-or-online-service/
I blew up on the survey news because the result will affect us all and yet it seems to be taken lightly. I am afraid they may learn the wrong things from the survey if it is not conducted properly. The second point is they need to put the integrated user experience ahead of all the individual features. The overall experience and benefits is what people pay for, definitely not the bullet items. They are not selling a toaster here.
On a different note:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/12/20/qriocity-the-name-of-a-new-sony-handheld-or-online-service/
Personaly I've supported Live having three tiers. 1) Free online 2) Online with demos and other content early . 3) Dedicated servers price it as following free , $25 for the year and $50-75 for the year. Throw in a few extra goodies to the third tier also.
Make every dev program in dedicated servers.
Would be so sweet. Sony could do the same .
Yes, dedicated servers, that is something that adds a lot of value to online gaming. I always found it strange that CoD get so much praise for being 60 fps, making it a very responsive shooter. But in fact because of lag your only responding to delayed images. Both are needed for a truly responsive game.
But if your going with dedicated servers, you really can't make it optional. How would you play against someone who isn't paying for it?
But if your going with dedicated servers, you really can't make it optional. How would you play against someone who isn't paying for it?
On second thought, I would pay for Linux for PS3. How much does it cost to keep the movement going with proper h/w support ?
EDIT:
On a related news, Sony eReader to include more publishers. Both subscription and per-issue model are supported.
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/12/21/sony-reader-experience-to-get-many-more-content-partners/
EDIT 2: Engadget reports on Sony Reader Daily Edition:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/sony-reader-daily-edition-starts-shipping-gets-more-newspapers/
EDIT:
On a related news, Sony eReader to include more publishers. Both subscription and per-issue model are supported.
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/12/21/sony-reader-experience-to-get-many-more-content-partners/
EDIT 2: Engadget reports on Sony Reader Daily Edition:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/sony-reader-daily-edition-starts-shipping-gets-more-newspapers/
Sony’s CES 2010 Press Conference Live
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/01/04/watch-sonys-ces-2010-press-conference-live/
Don't feel like starting a new thread for it. They may talk about the same old X pillars strategy, and show old, emotionless execs holding up PSPGo and eBook Reader. ^_^
http://www.sonyinsider.com/2010/01/04/watch-sonys-ces-2010-press-conference-live/
Don't feel like starting a new thread for it. They may talk about the same old X pillars strategy, and show old, emotionless execs holding up PSPGo and eBook Reader. ^_^
Probably limited content relevant to console gaming too, although we may get a glimpse of more Motion stuff.
... and may be 3D gaming + movie, or Sony Online Services.
Good point in the 3D. That's their push. IMO even if not a viable product, they should be showing some awesome 3D OLED screens and building up the Sony brand as the quality high-tech innovators they once were.
Sony patents Cloudsurf:
http://kotaku.com/5439795/sony-adds-cloudsurf-to-cloud-of-trademarks
2010 might be an explosive year. Apple is rumored to release a tablet computer on Jan 24th. Sony will have Gem in March. Nintendo will release the Vitality sensor around the same time (?). MS will have Natal by year end.
http://kotaku.com/5439795/sony-adds-cloudsurf-to-cloud-of-trademarks
2010 might be an explosive year. Apple is rumored to release a tablet computer on Jan 24th. Sony will have Gem in March. Nintendo will release the Vitality sensor around the same time (?). MS will have Natal by year end.