XB360's media capabilities a little misrepresented?
- Thread starter Shifty Geezer
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mckmas8808
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jvd said:
Its MS's fault for promoting it before the deal was done.
mckmas8808
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valioso said:
Ahhh good point. Still they tricked the dumber nonlistening people like me.
Great job MS. It's good hype if you ask me.
It's kind of funny seeing people here get mad at apple for not releasing iTunes to MS. It's primarily funny, because it reminds me of myself when I was upset that blizzard wouldn't make a DiabloII or World of Warcraft client for linux. It's the same deal. If Apple thought it made financial sense for them to open up iTunes to MS they would. Yes it sucks, but unfortunately it is a fact of life.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Microsoft for being incapable of making an offer that apple couldn't refuse.
Nite_Hawk
If you want to blame anyone, blame Microsoft for being incapable of making an offer that apple couldn't refuse.
Nite_Hawk
the main idea, which is one I've never agreed with but seems quite popular with XB, is to have custom soundtracks during games. Rather than listening to the supplied music you can play the musics you like, straight off your portable music player. Only not if that music was bought over iTunes.Phil said:
Master-Mold
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Color me confused 
So let me get this straight: Only songs you legally purchased from the Apple Store (i-tunes) cannot be played when hooked up to the X360?
If that is the case I couldn't care less. I have an Ipod Video but I have never bought a single song from Apple and refuse to. All the CD rips of mine that are on my Ipod video will work correct? Just because you import your MP3s into I-Tunes they dont get any DRM protection added correct?
If this is the case than who cares unless you have like thousands of purchased songs from Apple and if you do....well............you deserve pain.
So let me get this straight: Only songs you legally purchased from the Apple Store (i-tunes) cannot be played when hooked up to the X360?
If that is the case I couldn't care less. I have an Ipod Video but I have never bought a single song from Apple and refuse to. All the CD rips of mine that are on my Ipod video will work correct? Just because you import your MP3s into I-Tunes they dont get any DRM protection added correct?
If this is the case than who cares unless you have like thousands of purchased songs from Apple and if you do....well............you deserve pain.
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scooby_dooby
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Shifty Geezer said:
Once you've played your favourtie racer, or shoot-em-up with your favourite music in the background, it becomes a must have, what an awesome feature. Forza implented i t the best, in the menu's and all throughout the game you have your tracks playing and they continue between screenloads, very cool feature that is totally underrated by people who've never tried it...
Master-Mold
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scooby_dooby said:
I agree.
Driving while listening to Red Barchetta (Rush), Panama (Van Halen), Wherever I May Roam (Metallica), Thunderkiss 65' (White Zombie), etc. is simply priceless.
Now I am super stoked because any RPGs like Oblivion are going to rule listening to MP3s of Conan the Barbarian themes and NFL Films soundtracks. Dont laugh, NFL Films soundtracks sound very Conan-ish and are heavily orchestrated. Its a great CD!!!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/wma-pop-up/-/B00000DGUH001018/102-7193760-6460147 KILLER
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/wma-pop-up/-/B00000DGUH001012/102-7193760-6460147
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/wma-pop-up/-/B00000DGUH001008/102-7193760-6460147
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Here's a better article on the Xbox 360 and iPod issue...
http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+and+iPod+interoperability+Sort+of/2100-1041_3-5931847.html
Had Microsoft ponied up for the "Made for iPod" royalties program that Apple is offering, then Microsoft could have been able to say that the Xbox 360 could play all of the music on the iPod(DRM and MP3). Unfortunately, it would have cost Microsoft a 10% royalty off the wholesale price of the Xbox 360. No wonder Microsoft didn't play.
Personnally I could care less, I just want the ability to play any MP3 or WMA files I might have. If Microsoft can get around Apple's license program by at least providing some music support, then more power to them and consumers.
Tommy McClain
http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+and+iPod+interoperability+Sort+of/2100-1041_3-5931847.html
Had Microsoft ponied up for the "Made for iPod" royalties program that Apple is offering, then Microsoft could have been able to say that the Xbox 360 could play all of the music on the iPod(DRM and MP3). Unfortunately, it would have cost Microsoft a 10% royalty off the wholesale price of the Xbox 360. No wonder Microsoft didn't play.
Personnally I could care less, I just want the ability to play any MP3 or WMA files I might have. If Microsoft can get around Apple's license program by at least providing some music support, then more power to them and consumers.
Tommy McClain
AzBat said:
Thanks for the link.See, here's why DRM really stinks. All this crap about reducing piracy. Do you think Apple is charging 10% of X360 royalties to protect piracy? Or maybe they trying to fuck the consumer. What do you think?
While some may justify this as Apple's business model, ask yourself, what exactly are they losing by letting X360 play songs purchased off Itunes? Nothing except more money.
So who's looking forward to Vista?
Master-Mold said:Color me confused
So let me get this straight: Only songs you legally purchased from the Apple Store (i-tunes) cannot be played when hooked up to the X360?
Well put!
What about songs you get off the napster service and the other music services? Are those DRM'd? Will they also not play?
The consumer? Nah. They're trying to fuck MS. They really don't care if MS turns around and screws their consumers.PARANOiA said:
PARANOiA said:
See, here's why DRM really stinks. All this crap about reducing piracy. Do you think Apple is charging 10% of X360 royalties to protect piracy? Or maybe they trying to fuck the consumer. What do you think?
While some may justify this as Apple's business model, ask yourself, what exactly are they losing by letting X360 play songs purchased off Itunes? Nothing except more money.
So who's looking forward to Vista?
Apple is charging the royalties only for accessories of the iPod. Microsoft is doing the EXACT SAME THING wrt Xbox 360 accesories. They have to be stamped for approval to be a360 accesory and plus companies have to pay a royalty to Microsoft. I don't have a link, but I rmemeber reading a bunch of articles on the subject. So this has been done before, it's just ironic that MS is on the other end of the stick.
Streaming music from the iPod won't increase sales of iPods or iTMS since the console isn't exclusive to ipod. So there's no real incentive for Apple to open up FairPlay to MS.
MS has done this a number of times, trying to get Apple to open FairPlay or by stating in the media that Apple isn't playing fair with their DRM. I'm not surprised that this issue is being brought up again.
Edit: sorry for the triple post, I just didn't want my post to be too big, plus fumbling on a track pad copying and pasting is just annoying.
drpepper said:
I'm not trying to turn this into a MS vs Apple affair. My point was in relation to DRM wearing a hat of "anti-piracy" but used to shaft the legally purchasing consumer out of a function.
You know who loses here? Folks that bought songs on Itunes, since they can't listen to those songs in-game now.
What's also ironic is people downloading the songs illegally can use them on the Xbox360. Nice work to encourage piracy, Apple
(FWIW I agree MS would love to be able to shaft the customer as much for pure hard cash, and would do so in an instant if it had the ability.)
PARANOiA said:I'm not trying to turn this into a MS vs Apple affair. My point was in relation to DRM wearing a hat of "anti-piracy" but used to shaft the legally purchasing consumer out of a function.
You know who loses here? Folks that bought songs on Itunes, since they can't listen to those songs in-game now.
What's also ironic is people downloading the songs illegally can use them on the Xbox360. Nice work to encourage piracy, Apple
(FWIW I agree MS would love to be able to shaft the customer as much for pure hard cash, and would do so in an instant if it had the ability.)
Ok, I see your point. DRM is evil, but as long as the publishers want them the content providers must deliver. Really, the blame goes squarely to the RIAA for forcing Apple to use DRM to prevent user to connect the iPod to the 360. there now everyone is happy, we found someone to blame, as is the American way.
Shifty Geezer said:
Out of curiousity, why don't you like the ability to have custom soundtracks? That seems like a 'no lose' situation to me. If you want to listen the the supplied soundtrack you can, if you don't want to you can as well.
Typically, the best liked, best reviewed games come with decent soundtracks, but every now and then I play a game with horrible music. The last thing I want to listen to while playing a game is some cheezy Japanese butt rocker ballad. Give me Katamari Damacy or Halo music or give me custom soundtracks.
Plus, as an added bonus I can use a porno soundtrack and breathe new life into a game I've already played to death
scooby_dooby
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drpepper said:
Except that it does put IPOD at a competetive disadvantage if competitors decide to play nice with the 360.
Also, I think they owe it to their cystomers who payed fair and square, why would they not allow streaming? It's ridiculous IMO, way to reward your customers for playing by the rules.