Wii U hardware discussion and investigation *rename
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Personally I have no doubts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0HwlIs_I74&list=PLbyMQ6NJrOybgWlQp6vcqqjQAiZMyCYf_
Anyway even if it is the same raw power it should be much more efficient and with much less bottlenecks, the amounts of L2/edram/ram alone should do it small miracles even if does not give it any single extra gigaflop.
BTW Bayoneta 2 is also looking great (60 FPS too? it looks like)
Here is some good footage.
http://gamersyde.com/download_bayonetta_2_e3_showfloor_gameplay-30254_en.html
Here is some good footage.
http://gamersyde.com/download_bayonetta_2_e3_showfloor_gameplay-30254_en.html
Was Bayoneta 1 60FPS?
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On 360, it tried to be. PS3 not so much. But still playable, albeit jarring at times. Still a good game, even on PS3.
Yeah, I think the E3 footage blows the two thirds as many SP's on the GPU theory out of the water now.
That's interesting, especially since the game looks as good as or better than the original, and with great IQ to boot. I'm expecting an expert here to explain why it's still clearly weaker, though. But this is important; is this turns out to prove that it actually is a slightly more capable console, I may be willing to buy it after only a $50 price cut, rather than a $100 one.
Offscreen always hides the imperfections. Direct feed http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/13/bayonetta-2-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2013
I dont see much of a bump to geometry or textures over stuff we have seen for years on consoles in similar games
Hard to see much of any genuine detail in these fast action games, the video's so heavily compressed that the bitrate just isn't enough to cope with all the action, the imagery just breaks up into sub-blocks all the time. Also, being encoded into a different framerate than the on-screen action means you can't judge game framerate, and perhaps more importantly, fluidity. Does the game sag at points? No idea.
A hands-on, written text account would be more revealing than these streaming videos, IMO...
A hands-on, written text account would be more revealing than these streaming videos, IMO...
BTW Bayoneta 2 seems to run at constant 60 FPS.
http://www.eurogamer.pt/articles/2013-06-18-bayonetta-2
http://www.eurogamer.pt/articles/2013-06-18-bayonetta-2
He means that the fighting only slowdown after the big battle, never before, a all total action game from the beginning to the end of the level (the plane level).
About gfx he only say constant 60 FPS, great fx overall IIRC and something about the detail of bayoneta (he seems to enjoy it
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So do we have any sort of consensus on how many shaders this thing has?
160? 240? 320?
Even 160 shaders would compare favourably to Xenos given the architecture improvements over the years.
160? 240? 320?
Even 160 shaders would compare favourably to Xenos given the architecture improvements over the years.
The consensus has been 160 ever since someone suggested the possibility.
Welp, looks like this says nothing about the Wii U then. Back the square one.
Would never say much given that one is multi-platform and the other is a exclusive.
But in one of the first videos they said that they bumped the character models from 70.000 to 130.000, still I think that only a good comparison of multiplatforms or exclusives can tell the true story...
There hasn't been a concensus yet. The 160 SP theory doesn't match with the size of the SIMD blocks from what I gather.
Nothing matches the size of the SIMD blocks, probably because you can't compare a 40 nm PC GPUs to Nintendo's processor (which may use a different process, a different fab, different layout tools, or potentially all of the above).
Both the appearance of the chip and the performance it offers both make 320 sharers extremely unlikely, where as 160 fits very well.
Both the appearance of the chip and the performance it offers both make 320 sharers extremely unlikely, where as 160 fits very well.
Just for reference. An A4-3300 runs with a 160SP card and it seems to be struggling quite badly with Assassins Creed 3 at low resolution and settings. Worse than the framerates on the Wii U at least.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyljv8IUWns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyljv8IUWns
The Wii U may not run AC all THAT much better than the latter. Optimization can make up the difference.
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