Why the Nitpicking Desperation here to prove PS3 much more
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Because the Xbox 360 will be out a year earlier and the Sony crowd is feeling desperate? :|
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This topic is silly - this is purely perception on your part.
If anything this board is at least balanced if not a little X360 biased.
No offense, but if recent conversation irks you into perceiving a glut of PS3 bias, I can only think that discussion is simply becoming more balanced. (or...more convincing?)
And "nitpicking desperation" could be considered a by-word for some of the arguments made from some quarters re. X360
If anything this board is at least balanced if not a little X360 biased.
No offense, but if recent conversation irks you into perceiving a glut of PS3 bias, I can only think that discussion is simply becoming more balanced. (or...more convincing?
)And "nitpicking desperation" could be considered a by-word for some of the arguments made from some quarters re. X360
because anyone in their right mind knows it is!!
just kidding.
I haven't followed all the technical discussions about X360 and PS3. I'm not that informed about their architectures. It just seems to me that if the console is released a year later and will (most likely) cost more, then it's highly likely that the difference in graphics will be noticable. But hey we'll see.
just kidding.
I haven't followed all the technical discussions about X360 and PS3. I'm not that informed about their architectures. It just seems to me that if the console is released a year later and will (most likely) cost more, then it's highly likely that the difference in graphics will be noticable. But hey we'll see.
It's because there isn't much known about what the real life performance of the CELL architecture is. On the GPU side most people seem to think that the Xenos will be more powerfull than the RSX so that is in favour of Xbox360...
I have noticed that there does seem to be an awful lot of things that the SPEs are going to be used for.
You mean compared to what Microsoft told us
Frankly, I think there's more than enough nitpicking coming from both sides. Anyone who's complaining some particular side is doing more, seems rather insecure to me. Just relax, either teh x or teh ps will be able to run any next-gen title. The one console we need to worry about is revolution IMO, who rather than becoming "the little console that could" looks more to me like a lame duck...
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I agree that BOTH the PS3 and X360 will be so close to real world performance that it's not even funny. Except as has been noted the MSAA HDR on X360 may make a little IQ difference in the 1st gen.
But... it is fun discussing all of the potential of each.... when it's done with open minds and when not taken too seriously.
And you suppose a thread that is nitpicking about others nitpicking about technology helps this forum? There is little knowledge about PS3 other than what we have to go on right now. People make speculations about the hardware and try to provide some type of evidence for it being more powerful than Xbox 360. The reasons for this are clear.
The PS3 is coming out later so in theory it should be more powerful.
CELL has been hyped from the very beginning to be super powerful for gaming and other purposes. This hype was provided by Sony, and it will be seen just how much of the hype is true. CELL in itself seems to be a very good architecture, it just ultimately depends on the specific implentation of it for the specific application.
Nvidia vs. ATI is another one. Many prefer Nvidia over ATI and that may also be a reason why people are arguing PS3 will be better. That and the RSX is supposed to be a beefed up G70 in some sense.
These are valid reasons for people "nitpicking." There are just as many people arguing against why the PS3 will be more powerful. So it does even out.
I am of the opinion that both will be comparable in power but each machine has its own strengths.
The PS3 is coming out later so in theory it should be more powerful.
CELL has been hyped from the very beginning to be super powerful for gaming and other purposes. This hype was provided by Sony, and it will be seen just how much of the hype is true. CELL in itself seems to be a very good architecture, it just ultimately depends on the specific implentation of it for the specific application.
Nvidia vs. ATI is another one. Many prefer Nvidia over ATI and that may also be a reason why people are arguing PS3 will be better. That and the RSX is supposed to be a beefed up G70 in some sense.
These are valid reasons for people "nitpicking." There are just as many people arguing against why the PS3 will be more powerful. So it does even out.
I am of the opinion that both will be comparable in power but each machine has its own strengths.
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Besides random fanboys, I think everyone else has been fair. I think we all laugh at Sony's PowerPoint E3 press conference and the Major Nelson stuff.
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I like how the "exception" to the "both will be the same argument" favours X360
Depending on how Cell works out with respect to vertex processing and GPU communcation and so forth..that could be the key to putting more significant distance between the two consoles. I remember how people thought it would be the ultimate dream scenario for PS3, graphics wise, if Cell did all vertex processing and left a fully dedicated GPU to do all pixel shading. The truth of the matter is that the spec has emerged little different from that - the GPU's power is overwhelmingly invested in pixel shading (enough that there's as much if not more there than X360's GPU could use if it were to fully dedicate itself to pixel shading, at least on paper). And obviously as per the original favoured scenario, vertex processing is certainly an area where Cell can provide.
The AA situation on X360 is no doubt a plus point, but it seems far more "nitpicky" when you look at some AA-less PS3 games. A significant shading difference would be more substantial by comparison, IMO.
When people favor one system over another whether that is due to excitement over the new CELL or Xenos tech, Nv vs ATI, or Sony vs MS, there is a natural human tendency to try to show that their system is the "winner".
The great balanced technical discussions that take place here, allow people to learn.
The other rhetoric just entrenches one side or another and it makes it difficult for anyone to learn.
This isn't a sporting contest, there are no winners and losers between consoles. A lot of people will own both systems (or all 3) and they will be the true winners.
The great balanced technical discussions that take place here, allow people to learn.
The other rhetoric just entrenches one side or another and it makes it difficult for anyone to learn.
This isn't a sporting contest, there are no winners and losers between consoles. A lot of people will own both systems (or all 3) and they will be the true winners.
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