Joe DeFuria
Legend
I can't believe I read this:
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2360897/detail.html
The last part is just simply sad...
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2360897/detail.html
The last part is just simply sad...
Whites not qualified to teach Black history?!
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I don't think it's funny at all. There's so much wrong with that thinking that I don't even know where to begin. I guess if I were to become an associate professor of history at a local community or state college I wouldn't be qualified to teach anything on Nazi Germany unless I was Jewish. And it wouldn't matter whether or not any of my family members had actually experienced a concentration camp or any other form of Nazi oppression. . .just being Jewish would fully qualify me to speak on the horrors of Nazism.
Dr. Ffreeze
Regular
Hello All,
ditto
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Dr. Ffreeze
ditto
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Dr. Ffreeze
Certain people need to get off of slavery. Stop dwelling on the past.. it was almost 150 years ago that somebody stepped up and righted the wrongs. In a perfect world, racism wouldn't be an issue anymore.. but despite our society's greatest efforts.. it will probably always be a problem. A problem, BTW, that should never become so serious as to be a court issue.. but..
Well, I just wish people would forget about it.
Certain modern-day African-Americans need to forget about getting money for things that they didn't even experience, and others need to forget about ever someday enslaving the white man because slavery has been abolished..
Well, I just wish people would forget about it.
Certain modern-day African-Americans need to forget about getting money for things that they didn't even experience, and others need to forget about ever someday enslaving the white man because slavery has been abolished..
Dr. Ffreeze
Regular
Hello All,
From my understanding, quite a few Africans were sold into slavery by fellow rival African tribes. How does the average African-American feel about this? Why would the average black American want to be labeled an African-American?
Just wondering,
Dr. Ffreeze
From my understanding, quite a few Africans were sold into slavery by fellow rival African tribes. How does the average African-American feel about this? Why would the average black American want to be labeled an African-American?
Just wondering,
Dr. Ffreeze
Heh you don't see my complaining that my ancestors were raped by africans way back in history (well not mine sicilians ) Don't hear us complain. Don't go seeing jewish people complain about egypt enslaving them. Heck even more recently you don't see irish complaining about coming over here in boats and then being forced into war and low paying jobs living in poverty just cause they were irish. And they came to this country at that point in time trying to escape a war.
I don't see anything wrong with it and I don't consider any of this racism on either side. If I were black, I too would probably feel much more comfortable having a black teacher teach me about black culture since I could relate to the teacher and the culture.
Having a white teacher wouldn't piss me off but he would be strictly text book and obviously wouldn't have any personal experience living a black way of life. It doesn't matter if the white teacher only has good intentions to learn those students about black culture he only knows what he has read or heard about. He doesn't KNOW anything for sure. Either way, how do you know if the white teacher ISN'T racist? How do you know he won't try to insinuate in some subliminal way that black culture is inferior to white? Wouldn't it just be easier to choose the black teacher to avoid any kind of riot?
When someone expresses their own culture, they do it with emotion and memory, not machine-like scientific text book facts. Being mosty caucasian myself, I'd still rather have a black teacher teach me about HIS culture, even if he were racist and didn't like the fact that I came to his class every day to learn.
I don't like the way he said that either, but my point still stands.
BTW, it's not about how much black people are wrong for hating the fact that their people were slaves, it's about who would make the better african-american teacher.
Having a white teacher wouldn't piss me off but he would be strictly text book and obviously wouldn't have any personal experience living a black way of life. It doesn't matter if the white teacher only has good intentions to learn those students about black culture he only knows what he has read or heard about. He doesn't KNOW anything for sure. Either way, how do you know if the white teacher ISN'T racist? How do you know he won't try to insinuate in some subliminal way that black culture is inferior to white? Wouldn't it just be easier to choose the black teacher to avoid any kind of riot?
When someone expresses their own culture, they do it with emotion and memory, not machine-like scientific text book facts. Being mosty caucasian myself, I'd still rather have a black teacher teach me about HIS culture, even if he were racist and didn't like the fact that I came to his class every day to learn.
I don't like the way he said that either, but my point still stands.
BTW, it's not about how much black people are wrong for hating the fact that their people were slaves, it's about who would make the better african-american teacher.
I've certainly read similar reports on occasion but I can't remember the sources, I'm afraid.
It wouldn't surprise me - after all different tribes were competing against each other for resources. It would have been a good way to defeat your enemies without losing your some of your own tribe in wars.
Just human nature, really. If you have a hated enemy, he doesn't become necessarily become less of an enemy just because someone else arrives on the scene (and, if it stopped you getting taken instead, you'd certainly be happy to see the back of both your enemies and the slavers).
It wouldn't surprise me - after all different tribes were competing against each other for resources. It would have been a good way to defeat your enemies without losing your some of your own tribe in wars.
Just human nature, really. If you have a hated enemy, he doesn't become necessarily become less of an enemy just because someone else arrives on the scene (and, if it stopped you getting taken instead, you'd certainly be happy to see the back of both your enemies and the slavers).
this is a compilation of sources,, from the differening langauge there is quite a lot of "agenda" hidden within. But yep, in order to make power/money , some tribes would war with others, just so they could sell the captured slaves to the europeans.... this kind of tactic is *classic* imperialism , romans did it, british did it , spanish, french etc...
http://www.innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html
find it incredible that a teacher could say that this didnt happen,, maybe they were being specific or talking about a different time-frame...
-dave-
http://www.innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html
find it incredible that a teacher could say that this didnt happen,, maybe they were being specific or talking about a different time-frame...
-dave-
Joe DeFuria
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Don't Ask said:
First of all, we're talking about black history, not black culture.
And a black teacher doesn't have any personal experience beyond his/her living years and in whatever specific geographical location he lives in, either.
And the black teacher in question knows something first hand about slavery?
Neither does the black person.
Every single person has their own perspective on history / culture. Ask 10 different black people about insight into specific clutural / historical issues, and you're going to get different answers / perspectives depeding on several factors.
And how do you know the black person isn't racist either? Is it better for a racist black person to teach black history, vs. a racist white person?
Are you serious?
How do you know a black teacher won't try to insinuate in some subliminal way that whites are the root of all of black's problems throughout history?
As above.
If we're talking about a course in "Black Culture in Today's Inner Cities", being tought by a black person who lives in today's inner cities, you might have somewhat of a point. But then, that same person isn't qualified to teach about "black culture in today's elite society" either.
What is "black culture?"
Where are the courses in "white" culture?
Agreed. And african-americans are not by default better teachers about african-american history.