What is the Wii U's position after the conference last night?
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I'd be surprised if the WiiU sold Gamecube amount of units. I don't think you'll even see the type of software support the Gamecube had, it'll be worse and Nintendo itself will make less games. They haven't even made that transition that everyone in the industry has made over the last 7 years in development. They aren't just going to come out of the woodworks and be making lots of games, the Gamecube at least had games.
Yes, they know this and will be making lots of games. In fact, they announced an initiative where they will develop all their games with both 3DS and Wii U asset pipelines in paralel, so they can release most of their first party titles for both platforms.
What this means for the gameplay ambitions for both of these systems though remains to be seen - but then I'm not sure a lot of gameplay exists in Nintendo first parties that are ciompute heavy anyway, so it may not be an issue.
What this means for the gameplay ambitions for both of these systems though remains to be seen - but then I'm not sure a lot of gameplay exists in Nintendo first parties that are ciompute heavy anyway, so it may not be an issue.
They are going to need to be more than a hardware company that makes a few software titles a year. They are going to need to be the hardware version of EA, pumping 2 or 3 quality titles per quarter to make a dint. The drought they are about to experience could be worse than the Wii. What, are they are going to make a 2d Mario every year on all their platforms than multiply that by all their properties? It hasn't worked with Mario, that strat is DoA otherwise all EA would be making is Madden, Fifa, Sims and Battlefield.
Well were all those rumors floating around that this generation was going to be the last for one manufacturer. Perhaps the WiiU will be the deciding factor for Nintendo? Getting into the next generation after this or even building services to compete with the current generation is scarily expensive. Sony and MS have the advantage that they have been building their service portfolio for years now, they only need to add and tweak. Not create from scratch.
So maybe the WiiU will be Nintendo's swan song?
So maybe the WiiU will be Nintendo's swan song?
Cannot see Nintendo leaving hardware at all, their hand helds are a licence to print money.
They may drop out of the home console market though, but I doubt it. They will be hoping for another Wii which was a massive success after a fairly massive failure, they will think they can do it again.
They may drop out of the home console market though, but I doubt it. They will be hoping for another Wii which was a massive success after a fairly massive failure, they will think they can do it again.
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It's only as expensive as a company wants it to be. You can get 500 euro laptops faster than wiiu. There is no reason why you couldn't shop cheap for off the self parts and have decentish hardware that won't lose you money at 300 ~ 350 at launch.
That is oversimplifying things ofcourse but still.
Also you have to consider what going software only will mean. Nintendo will have to give up a big part of their software profits on royalties and they won't be getting royalties from others anymore either like they do now.
They might sell more software but you could ask yourself if most people who want to play Nintendo games won't buy a Nintendo console anyway or if the extra sale are going to make up for the loss in profit on each game they sell.
They might not go for the best hardware but there is definitely a market for them. Software only isn't necessary a better option even if they only sell 20 ~ 30 million consoles.
That's certainly the impression I'm getting. They have hardware that doesn't even meet the minimum requirements to compete. If they find that even meeting the standard that Microsoft and Sony has set as untenable they'll likely to drop out first. Their calling is dedicated mobile hardware, not these consoles that are going to be an all in one media box they can't compete in that arena.
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And what is the royalty rate on slim-to-none sales? Nintendo is not getting any amount of substantial money from software royalties on WiiU.
There seems to be only 4 software titles that sold well over 100K units since product launch in November. Guess what, Call of Duty was NOT one of them. Activision can't be pleased with this. Third party developers might as well not even bother spending money on producing games for a platform that fails to sell games.
Anyone buying Call of Duty on the Wii U is doing it really, really wrong.
Actually, Gabe at Penny Arcade has declared that the WiiU is his preferred platform for CoD. His reasons seemed quite sound.
By the way, aren't hate threads like this a bit pitiful?
It's far too early to write off the Wii U. The inevitable price cuts will decide the outcome. Many people wrote off the 3DS because of slow sales but now it's one of the fastest selling consoles of all time. Sales will likely balloon over the next couple of years as price goes down and the main franchises come out. The young kids market is huge but their parents also need to afford it.
The performance differential is a separate issue though. There's no competition in that regard.
The performance differential is a separate issue though. There's no competition in that regard.
Who plays a competitive shooter over the WiiU? He sounds like one of those waggle fans who thinks a pointer is better movement than traditional dual stick pad until they start playing multiplayer which is why people buy these games. It's the least compatible console in that regard. Maybe if he only ever plays the single player but that's throw away and you won't ever play that more than once or twice, likely to trade in your game after a week or two.
I think that Nintendo should concentrate their focus on the area in which they are still strong and relevant. And that is the mobile arena, the hardware inside their DS isn't anything special. The majority of modern mobiles, tablets etc have enough grunt to do the same. Maybe they should create a licensed version of the Nintendo platform and get into bed with Samsung et al. Continue to produce the DS for the fans and step out of the monolithic home console market, which is changing far more rapidly than Nintendo seems to be able to keep up with.
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Over 45 Millions WiiFits sold... If Nintendo is smart enough and they appeal to their existing Wii audience instead of trying to be a bit more hardcore they'll be fine. They just need to cut the price and get the message to their Wii users. You don't need 8GB of GDDR5 to sell 50 million scales.
Over 45 Millions WiiFits sold... If Nintendo is smart enough and they appeal to their existing Wii audience instead of trying to be a bit more hardcore they'll be fine. They just need to cut the price and get the message to their Wii users. You don't need 8GB of GDDR5 to sell 50 million scales.
All that trend suggests though is that they should release a posh set of, interactive, bathroom scales. Not a console like the WiiU. It's firmly aimed at a market that doesn't exist. At best it'll be niche, if it can even raise itself to those lofty heights!
There is when you offset the scale of your graph to exaggerate it, but in reality we're talking, what, 10% difference? (Stats; there are lots of ways to interpret the numbers!)
Wii is 52:48 female:male, PS3 is 46:54. Both are a fairly even split. 60:40 vs 30:70 would be an astounding split, not both within 10% of each other.
6 full percentage points is pretty significant in a binary demographic.
I don't expect WiiU to go anywhere much because the console is more like a Gamecube with out-of-the-box connectivity than the Wii. Gamecube didn't exactly light the market on fire.
I don't expect WiiU to go anywhere much because the console is more like a Gamecube with out-of-the-box connectivity than the Wii. Gamecube didn't exactly light the market on fire.
You can control the WiiU version of Black Ops 2 with either dual analog controls on the pad or with the pointer/nunchuck combination.
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