What is a homosexual/transexual?
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:? where's the logic in that?????hey69 said:
Every order of a brain is a "disease" then?
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Recent research tends to suggest that transexuals have had an incorrect amount of hormones in the womb at critical times of developement. For instance, a male foetus doesn't get the right level of hormones at the right time, so you end up with a male body and the (default) female brain. When they scan the brain of a male-female transexual, they show the same activity female brains, not male brains. The body is male, but the brain is female.
This is quite different from male homosexuals who have a male brain but just fancy other blokes. There's some tentative evidence to suggest it is a genetic disposition, but the jury is still out on that one.
The arguments based on genetics or development in the womb are of course difficult to separate out from all the various (and different) social and environmental things that happen to define a person's sexuality as they grow into adults, and ones tends to obscure the other. This is why even now there are still so many "nature versus nurture" arguments about this and many other subjects. I suspect that it's probably a bit of both.
This is quite different from male homosexuals who have a male brain but just fancy other blokes. There's some tentative evidence to suggest it is a genetic disposition, but the jury is still out on that one.
The arguments based on genetics or development in the womb are of course difficult to separate out from all the various (and different) social and environmental things that happen to define a person's sexuality as they grow into adults, and ones tends to obscure the other. This is why even now there are still so many "nature versus nurture" arguments about this and many other subjects. I suspect that it's probably a bit of both.
PC-Engine said:
That's the ignoramus in you talking. :?
As a gay teen, I spent a few years investagating - the origins of homosexuality.
This included 'scientific investigations' into sexual orientation. While it's an interesting subject to research - you have to realise that ultimately the 'origins of homosexuality' should make no difference to civil, political and human rights. Equality does not require scientific justification.
I just get the feeling that on this board the more socially conservative members get a little to 'involved' with why people are gay, and seem to miss that - It doesn't really matter.
Millions of gay people are pefectly happy just they way they are. I am and I've been happily in Love with my partner/boyfriend for almost five years now.
This included 'scientific investigations' into sexual orientation. While it's an interesting subject to research - you have to realise that ultimately the 'origins of homosexuality' should make no difference to civil, political and human rights. Equality does not require scientific justification.
I just get the feeling that on this board the more socially conservative members get a little to 'involved' with why people are gay, and seem to miss that - It doesn't really matter.
Millions of gay people are pefectly happy just they way they are. I am and I've been happily in Love with my partner/boyfriend for almost five years now.
K.I.L.E.R,
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If you have some basic questions to ask about homosexuality you should really read through this :
http://web.archive.org/web/20030621084436/http://hcqsa.virtualave.net
PeterAce said:
Gay is the new Black. A century ago these folks would have been opposing equal rights for women. Half a century ago these same folks would have been opposing equal rights for blacks.
Those battles have been lost, and it's no longer acceptable to argue that women and blacks shouldn't have equal rights under the law with the pinnacle of God's creation -- the White Male.
So the debate moves on to the next thing that distinguishes a subset of people from God's White Male, namely gay folks. That battle *will* be lost, and ... oh who knows who'll be next. Left-handed people maybe (wierdos!)
The reason (I won't use the word "blame" out of respect for those who already are... although I don't approve, which possibly counts for nothing with you folks) for gays/lesbians comes down to one thing : improper and inadequate parenting.
I've seen this happen to 4 guys and 2 girls and in all 6 cases, they never argued with me on this point. All of them thought they wouldn't be in this "minority" if their parents had brought them up different from the way they were actually brought up.
The gays and lesbians here will no doubt curse me for this since many of you think the world of your parents.
I am just providing comment based on a 100% experience rate. I've nothing against sex-of-the-same-kind... I only wonder who was the first human being that did this because it was "natural" to him/her.
I've seen this happen to 4 guys and 2 girls and in all 6 cases, they never argued with me on this point. All of them thought they wouldn't be in this "minority" if their parents had brought them up different from the way they were actually brought up.
The gays and lesbians here will no doubt curse me for this since many of you think the world of your parents.
I am just providing comment based on a 100% experience rate. I've nothing against sex-of-the-same-kind... I only wonder who was the first human being that did this because it was "natural" to him/her.
Reverend said:
Well, "proper" and "parenting" are often used in the same sentence, and IMO are generally a foil for some other bug-bear that folks have with some element of modern society.
Personally I regard ramming hard-line religious (and associated moral) viewpoints down childrens throats from an early age as improper parenting, but that reflects a bug-bear I have with certain minorities in modern society. To many others these folks are *good* parents.
Does beating the living crap out of your son/daughter if he/she shows the slightest signs of fancying their own sex count as good parenting, or bad?
See my post above about animals. I'd guess that Homo Sapiens practiced homosexuality long before we became Homo Sapiens.
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