I'm not so sure about that, I remember playing Quake 3 at god knows what the framerate counter only goes up to 999 and it felt strange
Value of Hardware Unboxed benchmarking
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Hmm I don’t know about that. Some of the best games aren’t graphical masterpieces for sure. But that doesn’t mean most good looking games are junk. I would guess most crappy games also look like crap.
For me, I'll lower graphics to whatever point I can live with to get as many frames as I can up to the refresh rate of my monitor (240). There is a point where graphics look too shitty to live with, but upscaling is always an easy way to get more performance with minimal issues. It's pretty much automatic that I'll turn it on, unless I'm playing some game where I can hit 240 without it, which is rare.
How would you feel about using MFG to get to 240Hz?
Most of the big RT tech demo games aren't all that great and will be forgotten within a few years. Some exceptions of course(Metro Exodus EE, however I still think while its graphically the best of the trilogy, it is the worst in most other ways, Cyberpunk after about 2-3 years of patches, maybe Control?), but many of the big UE5 showcase titles are completely forgettable.
The vast majority of games aren’t memorable though so saying most RT games aren’t memorable isn’t surprising. I don’t think being pretty makes games less memorable. If anything it’s the exact opposite - e.g. crysis, doom 3, HL2.
i still remember the thumping stomping noises of the big baddies reverberating through the jungle and being really scared
My all time favorite games are almost all visually stunning and I think that was integral to my enjoyment of those games. Witcher 3, Halo CE, Half Life 2, Bad Company 2, Crysis, Mario 64, the list goes on. Great graphics don't make a great game, but great games tend to have great graphics.
So when people say graphics don't matter, I don't think it's that simple. While I wouldn't say the graphics were the main selling point of those games (Crysis excepted), it's no coincidence that they all look great.
So when people say graphics don't matter, I don't think it's that simple. While I wouldn't say the graphics were the main selling point of those games (Crysis excepted), it's no coincidence that they all look great.
I’d probably want 120->240, but I’d try 80->240. Most likely I’d prefer 100->200 or something instead.
Potato Head
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The benchmark demo is horrible. No amount of tweaking stops the grass from being a pixelated mess. My advice, do NOT play the benchmark until the end when people eat. The food is so gross looking I almost hurled.
At the beginning of the demo someone rubs their face, but you can’t see any contact at all. It’s just a hand making a motion in front of their face. Terrible.
The only thing in my head when I see this on a 4090 is PS4 console crap.
This engine is a complete mess for open world games. I think it was developed for a Resident Evil game, but RE Engine does not stand for Resident Evil Engine... anyway Resident Evil has very different requirements compared to a game like Monster Hunter.
Dragon's Dogma 2 was also a disaster at launch. By the time I played it a couple months ago it had been improved but is still rough without framegen. Here's hoping they can do something to bring up performance because Monster Hunter World was pretty fun.
I messed around with it a bit. Really struggling to understand what the engine is doing for a 3090 to not hit 60fps at medium settings. In the grass section it’s closer to 35fps. Geometry, lighting and texture detail aren’t anything special. The character models are pretty decent though.
I didn't say this. I said filtering out all games with outdated graphics means you will miss a lot of good ones. It is also generally true that most of the cutting edge graphic marvels are rather uninspired (they make up for being boring or poorly written with graphics, which is fine there’s room for everyone).
I think it’s telling that all your examples of groundbreaking games that also had groundbreaking graphics and tech were from two decades ago mostly.
Potato Head
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Come on man. Do we really need to list the fantastic looking and fantastic playing games of this generation? I’d expect someone posting here to be up to date on these, am I wrong?
Yep agree.
You keep saying this but most games in general are uninspired. You’re implying that graphically advanced games are less inspired which is simply not true.
Well in order for a game to be considered memorable it does have to be a bit old. What are some of the recent classics with outdated graphics in your opinion?
I think if you listed what you think are the 'fantastic playing games of this gen' I'd probably disagree with most of them.
Sure, I can get with you on this. That said, uninspired bland looking games are ignored entirely, while good looking but poorly written games end up in the news cycle for a few weeks.
Tbh I can't think of any recent classics. I think we are in a horrible drought of genuinely good games. The last really good game I can think of would be RDR2 or TLOU2, but both were fair graphically impressive for their time, and neither particularly recent. Both came pre-RTX so they were really the last and the best of the raster only gen.
Give me the list!
For real I'm starving for good games from the last 4 years. The last game with really good graphics I tried was Hellblade 2 and I quit after 20 minutes of walking around doing nothing. I can still hear the voices
Potato Head
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Give me the list!
For real I'm starving for good games from the last 4 years. The last game with really good graphics I tried was Hellblade 2 and I quit after 20 minutes of walking around doing nothing. I can still hear the voices
In no particular order (assuming you already are aware of the raytracing showcase titles)
Stray
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Star Wars Outlaws
Forza Horizon
Pinball FX
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
Black Myth: Wukong
Diablo IV (get a month of Gamepass)
God of War: Ragnarok
Atomic Heart
High On Life
Ghost runner: Tokyo
Returnal
The Calisto Protocol
