Top or bottom? image quality analysis

[karlotta]

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Well, firstly I never said IQ wasn't important, I just made a slightly facetious remark about not spending my time staring at the floor when playing an FPS game. Perhaps most people do, but I certainly don't.

Second, saying IQ is more important than FPS is totally subjective, and depends on how and why you play video games. Go and read any of the 'pro gaming' websites and you'll see people who will deliberately sacrifice all eye-candy for a higher frame rate. My clan used to play in Division 1 of the Barrysworld and Jolt Unreal Tournament league, and you would have been laughed out of the IRC channel if you ever said anything like, "having to settle for less IQ to have high fps is all wrong".

When you are playing extremely fast-paced online games against good human opponents you really don't have any chance to take in the scenery, let alone notice a tiny bit of banding. Infact, you want the background textures to be as low as possible in order that your opponent(s) stand out more. You don't want lens flares, coronas and screen flashes distracting you. .......

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Yes there is the blocky guys shooting blocky guys in a swirll of blockyness, so your reticul stands out over the blockyness at 800/600, or even 680/420. Yeah pro players..whaterever, Chk out Fuh Quake in all its 24bit IQ with FULL eyecandy played at 72fps CAPPED for competion. More IQ is wanted to have a sharper screen to see your opponents. Yeah it is a matter of taste, one has it and the other doesnt. And thats my point.

 

[Richard]

The five ppl (atm) who voted for top pic should:

a) have their eyes checked
b) replace their monitor and/or video card
c) take off their rose-tinted glasses

What gets me is that apparently the FC 1.1 patch is responsible for this and no one at crytek/ubisoft noticed it before they released the patch? Do they not have any gffx boards on their dev rigs? Apparently they have time to add shader model 3.0 support but they can't release a 1.1a patch just to correct this error?

Also, while I have no doubt whatsoever that it will be fixed for the 6800, will the same happen for gffx boards?

 

[Diplo]

What gets me is that apparently the FC 1.1 patch is responsible for this and no one at crytek/ubisoft noticed it before they released the patch? Do they not have any gffx boards on their dev rigs?

Partly the patch was released to address the notoriously poor PS2.0 performance on NV3.x cards. In other words, they put a downgraded PS2.0 path in for Nvidia cards to increase performance at the expense of image quality. At the time they wouldn't have known that Nvidia were about to release a card (the NV40) that has great PS2.0 performance, so this card is effected by the patch too. Sadly a few ATI zeaolots have jumped on this to prove the NV40 has poor IQ, when in fact it's not really indicative at all.

 

[LeGreg]

The five ppl (atm) who voted for top pic should:

I suggest the people that took this poll seriously should:
- get their brain checked.

 

[Richard]

The five ppl (atm) who voted for top pic should:

I suggest the people that took this poll seriously should:
- get their brain checked.

If you owned a GF FX and cared about getting what you bought you'd take this matter seriously. I don't have a GF FX and I take it seriously! IQ is paramount to me. First there were the "but brilinear is not something you notice" arguments, which I can certainly understand, but not agree with. But now, apparently there are people out there, who are willing to blanket this blatant quality difference. More, they're willing to say a lower quality rendering is actually of higher visual quality.

It's unfortunate you don't take it seriously. Remember, it's only a bug if people complain. And if enough people say "oh, the quality is not so bad" soon enough games/hardware will resort to that standard. See nvidia lowering their AF to meet ATi's.

And who can blame them? There wasn't exactly an outcry at ATi's AF implementation.

Diplo: Yeah, unfortunately. However, as much as I believe it's a bug with the 6800 and that it will be fixed (eventually ) I'm not so sure GF FX owners will be able to get their IQ back.

 

[London Geezer]

Versatile!!!............

Er uhm, bottom. Yea, bottom.

* Natoma runs from london-boy

Well, btm/vers until 2 months ago. Converted now.