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[epicstruggle]

:?

epic, it's obvious you really just don't get it. Forget it.

I guess its only bad if bush and his cronies are involved.
later,
epic

 

[Natoma]

No it's bad when the commander-in-chief is involved. :?

You know, leader of the armed forces and all that?

 

[epicstruggle]

No it's bad when the commander-in-chief is involved. :?

Interesting, I guess he has no right to make light of a serious situation once a year. I guess we do advocate limiting rights, huh?

later,
epic

 

[Natoma]

It's in poor taste. Would Bush go to a hospital full of injured fighters coming home from Iraq and make that same joke? Would Bush go to a town hall meeting with the families and friends of those killed in Iraq and pull out that hilarious material? I should certainly hope not.

There is an ability humans have by the tag of self-discretion.

We're in the middle of a war. The commander-in-chief should not be making light of the fact that the prime reason we went to war, the prime reason nearly 600 american soldiers are dead and thousands more wounded, along with thousands of iraqis dead and wounded, has not come to fruition. That is in poor taste. He's free to say whatever he wants. It doesn't make it right.

And I can't believe I actually have to spell this out..... :?

 

[London Geezer]

No it's bad when the commander-in-chief is involved. :?

Interesting, I guess he has no right to make light of a serious situation once a year. I guess we do advocate limiting rights, huh?

later,
epic

Epic, picture this: Your DAD died in the conflict. then you see Bush or whoever else making "funny jokes" about the whole episode.

Now, would you find it oh so amusing still? Come on, get serious here...

 

[epicstruggle]

I find it more insulting when politicians use the tragedies of war to further their own careers, as kerry is doing (plans on doing).

I dont find it insulting (what bush did), as this is only a once a year event. But then again i dont know what it feels like to loose a son/daughter/relative in a war. Maybe we should conduct a poll of all the families and see if they were insulted. There are bigger things to argue over, than this dinner event.

later,
epic

 

[London Geezer]

I dont find it insulting (what bush did), as this is only a once a year event. But then again i dont know what it feels like to loose a son/daughter/relative in a war. Maybe we should conduct a poll of all the families and see if they were insulted.

Ok epic, you just don't get it.
Later

 

[epicstruggle]

I dont find it insulting (what bush did), as this is only a once a year event. But then again i dont know what it feels like to loose a son/daughter/relative in a war. Maybe we should conduct a poll of all the families and see if they were insulted.

Ok epic, you just don't get it.
Later

I guess i dont get your view point. But thats ok, we are all different.

later,
epic

 

[John Reynolds]

I find it more insulting when politicians use the tragedies of war to further their own careers. . . .

I assume you didn't like those initial Bush TV ads with the 9/11 images then.

 

[London Geezer]

I guess i dont get your view point. But thats ok, we are all different.

later,
epic

What's there to understand? You're much harder to understand, matey, with your double standards and faulty logic, but that's ok, we're all different...

 

[Fred]

Any joke can be made inappropriate by taking it out of context or rationalizing it. I guess sensitivities are so high when you're commander in chief, that it calls for pretty much never making a joke. -sigh-

Kerry had access to the same secure briefs as the Pres, and voted for the Iraq war. To backtrack now and call him a liar, is essentially pointing the finger at himself. Which is ridiculous.

 

[epicstruggle]

I guess i dont get your view point. But thats ok, we are all different.

later,
epic

What's there to understand? You're much harder to understand, matey, with your double standards and faulty logic, but that's ok, we're all different...

I guess so. But at least i dont have an irrational hatred of anything bush related. To each his own.

Fred your right. I didnt watch the whole dinner, only the brief exerpts shown on tv. So maybe its not right of me to comment on something I only have a partial picture of.

later,
epic

 

[digitalwanderer]

Maybe we should conduct a poll of all the families and see if they were insulted.

We'll be having one of those this November and I guess we will see just how the families and people of this country react. 8)

 

[epicstruggle]

Maybe we should conduct a poll of all the families and see if they were insulted.

We'll be having one of those this November and I guess we will see just how the families and people of this country react. 8)

Very true. This is going to be the longest political election season of all time. Some 8 months of pointless argueing. I cant vote (not a citizen), so you guys are up by one.

later,
epic

 

[John Reynolds]

Don't feel bad. . .I doubt I even vote at all.

 

[epicstruggle]

Don't feel bad. . .I doubt I even vote at all.

I hate you. 8) To have the option of voting and not doing it is quite sad. Im curious what state do you live in. Im sure there will be more than the 2 candidates on the ballot. Maybe supporting one of the other smaller parties can make a bigger splash than voting for the lesser of two evils.

later,
epic

 

[London Geezer]

Don't feel bad. . .I doubt I even vote at all.

Then don't complain when something goes wrong, young man *my granma would say*....

 

[digitalwanderer]

Don't feel bad. . .I doubt I even vote at all.

BAD John, BAD!!!

I always pull out me old bell-bottoms, tie-dye, and bandana before going to vote; it scares the bejesus out of all the conservatives around here!

 

[Natoma]

Any joke can be made inappropriate by taking it out of context or rationalizing it. I guess sensitivities are so high when you're commander in chief, that it calls for pretty much never making a joke. -sigh-

Kerry had access to the same secure briefs as the Pres, and voted for the Iraq war. To backtrack now and call him a liar, is essentially pointing the finger at himself. Which is ridiculous.

Don't get me started on Kerry........

But this situation is nothing about taking anything out of context or rationalization or sensitivities.

 

[Natoma]

I wonder how it would have gone over for Bush to make a joke about not finding Osama Bin Laden, rather than weapons of mass destruction.

I know it's just one person, but a republican pundit on Hardball last night said that in his opinion, the joke Bush made just shows that even in the Administration they thought WMD as a casus belli for war was laughable, so much so that they would poke fun at it. Hell even Pat Buchanan on CNBC News said that he thought the joke was in poor taste, and he's as far right as they come. But yea, this is nothing but "left wing wackos" right epic? :?

Here's a clue. I spent the months leading up to the Iraq war agonizing over the thought that my brother would be called up to serve, especially when generals were talking 300K-400K troops to take Iraq. He was 27 at the time and had been honorably discharged from the navy after 3 years service a few years ago.

If we had lost him in this war and I had heard Bush laugh about the reasons my brother was sent overseas, I can tell you now I would have been devastated by that lack of empathy and common sense coming from our leader. And that's just my own imagination, let alone how I truly would have felt at such a loss.