The slowest XT in the world.
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nelg said:According to Xbit, nV is to launch a 5600XT with 235/400 core/mem speeds. Maybe ATI should re-name the 9200 to 5960Ultra.
Edit: Removed link to unscrupulous site. 8)
why should they? They are confusing consumers already enough.
9000, 9100 and 9200 are not DX9 products.
9800SE is crap considering its performance and naming scheme and of course price. 9600pro is the better choice.
Really ATI does nothing different. In fact at this moment their product line is much more confusing then Nvidia's.
Stay with the facts.
Imagine that. And you know what else, the 5200 5600 5800 and 5900 aren't just dx5 products either. Maybe it's a conspiricy?
Don't get me wrong, I agree that ATI's naming scheme sucks. But not for that reason. Why people insist that the 9 in the 9x00 products must mean dx9 is beyond me though.
Maybe because ATI stated thats what the naming scheme meant at one point?jjayb said:
Never mind the co-incidence of the 7xxx all being DX7 and the 8xxx all being DX8, and the 9xxx models all being DX9, until the introduction of the 9000, then the renaming of the 8500 to the 9100, etc.SvP said:
But anyways, this has been debated way too much in the past. No need to spend more time on it as it isn't going to change anything.
Personally, both companies need to get their asses kicked for coming up with such incomprehensible and inconsistant naming schemes. Its even more delightful that the little monikers on the end mean opposite things for the different companies.
Richthofen said:nelg said:According to Xbit, nV is to launch a 5600XT with 235/400 core/mem speeds. Maybe ATI should re-name the 9200 to 5960Ultra.
Edit: Removed link to unscrupulous site. 8)
why should they? They are confusing consumers already enough.
9000, 9100 and 9200 are not DX9 products.
9800SE is crap considering its performance and naming scheme and of course price. 9600pro is the better choice.
Really ATI does nothing different. In fact at this moment their product line is much more confusing then Nvidia's.
Stay with the facts.
Well, to their credit, ATI does not sell a BBA 9100 or 9800SE. The 9100 was ditching 8500LE cores and the 9800SE was done entirely by their OEMs I believe.
And when the 8500 was launched 8xxx=DX8 and 7xxx=DX7. Now it means generation. No big deal. SAT doesn't mean scholastic aptitude test either anymore
RussSchultz said:
uhm... Radeon VE / Radeon 7000 didn't have HW T&L, which places it to DX6 more than DX7...
and of course all 8xxx were DX8, because there really wasn't more than 8500 and it's AIW DV and AIW variant, am I right? (FireGL products excluded, which weren't Radeons anyways...)In any case: both big companies have way too fast product name cycles. there's no way Honest John following which is which. I completely agree on that.
It wouldn't suprise me if both companies felt the confusion generated was good for several reasons:Althornin said:
-getting consumers to purchase products that aren't as good as their big brothers. (people will ignore the letters or assume they mean better in general)
-dumbing down their competitors naming scheme. (people know that SE means less on product A, so the competitors SE must mean less, also)
-riding the coat tails of their competitors naming scheme.(OOH! SE means good on that product, it must mean good on this one too!)
The 7000 supported DOT3, which was introduced in....DX7.Nappe1 said:uhm... Radeon VE / Radeon 7000 didn't have HW T&L, which places it to DX6 more than DX7...
