The Last of Us, Part 1 Remaster Remaster [PS5, PC]
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if I remember correctly on ps4 was real time edit: from what I read now also prerendered on ps4
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Here's what you get in The Last of Us Part 1's $69, $79 and $99 editions
Last night, Naughty Dog officially unveiled its The Last of Us Part 1 remake for the PS5, and confirmed it will also ma…
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Here it says $70
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I think this release isn't aimed at you but people who missed it on PS3 and didn't buy the PS4 remaster, or people who have not played it for ten years. Or people who couldn't play it because accessibility features weren't as big a thing as they are today. Sony will have numbers on the number of people (PSN accounts) that played TLoU on PS3, PS4 and TLoU Part II on PS4 and PS5. There are probably a number of people who played Part II but didn't play the original and this may be an attempt to tap into that market.
Despite all the rhetoric of "built from the ground up for the PS5", I doubt this required a massive amount of effort to produce. The engine will certainly mostly be The Last of Us Part II+ / New Naughty Dog PS5 game engine along with the mechanics from Part II. They will not have redone all the performance capture although I wouldn't be surprised to see the odd new scene or voice lines added in.
I was thinking more about the upcoming TV show. There is the multiplayer coming and a third game is coming.
In terms of value for Sony, its most likely a minimal effort compared to developing a whole new game. With this the foundations are there, they just 'port' it over to a new engine to accomodate the new platforms. It does look amazing, and considering its one of the better games ever on Playstation i can see this selling in quite large numbers. The pc gamer market for the most hasnt played it and wouldnt ever if it didnt come to that platform so just there they would get some nice sales, but i can see it selling very well on the PS5 too. If this is a 60/70 dollar game i think it wont be a problem.
See it this way, its quite dire with games now (actual 'next gen' AAA games), cross-gen games look quite subpar for the most so this is better than nothing in-between for when the true games start coming out. As said i think not much development time and resources have gone to waste for this remake, god knows maybe its Nixxess helping out aswell. Its also intresting to see with the load times between PS5 and PC since this doesnt seem like a cross-gen title.
See it this way, its quite dire with games now (actual 'next gen' AAA games), cross-gen games look quite subpar for the most so this is better than nothing in-between for when the true games start coming out. As said i think not much development time and resources have gone to waste for this remake, god knows maybe its Nixxess helping out aswell. Its also intresting to see with the load times between PS5 and PC since this doesnt seem like a cross-gen title.
This could actually convince me to try it when the price drops to reasonable level. I never finished tlou1 becouse of ancient obnoxious gameplay. Simply hated this game. Same with uncharted remaster I was surprised how much better 4 was. On whole different level.
Zombietoid
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Was anyone left feeling glad that they didn't announce this as an actual remake? They may call it that in the promotional content, but it's actually another remaster.
I honestly cannot be bothered with developers constantly churning out remakes and the stalling tactics these companies use is ridiculous. Kind of like with Capcom. No DLC news for RE8 in a year, folks. Wow!
In all the time they squander on remakes with omitted content, that's money they could have put towards something totally new. You know? That people just want to play the same old crap, it's sad.
I'll say one thing: Naughty Dog informs their fans. They also challenge their fans when necessary. They made it known Laura Bailey being harassed wasn't cool, for example. They're absolutely dedicated over there. You have to at least give them kudos where it's due.
Not trying to be a Naughty Dog fanboy, or a suck up. But they earned my respect. They are passionate about delivering a game that will be praised for the ages. But even Naughty Dog fans can be spiteful and awkward. Moaning about Joel dying and Abby looking all manly, and there being a girl who pretends to be a boy, and whatnot, when the game is otherwise brilliant.
Capcom on the other hand, is just flat out greedy. Why remake RE4 anyway? Oh, but it will sell countless units no doubt, because you got these so-called "hardcore fans" of the franchise that never even touched, nor truly cared for the old PlayStation 1 games, saying it's so amazing. But RE4 in my opinion, is incredibly overrated. If you go on GameFAQs, they act so smart. But trust me. They don't care for the retro classics one bit.
Like imagine killing a giant ogre and getting gold bars, and then selling stuff to a vendor with no wagon, and being able to blast up everything in your path. That's not scary Resident Evil. Neither is RE8 quite frankly, if I had to be honest. But it's just how it is. They're always glorifying these games, but the story makes no sense at all.
The Last of Us actually has a story in the backbone, worth discussing.
I honestly cannot be bothered with developers constantly churning out remakes and the stalling tactics these companies use is ridiculous. Kind of like with Capcom. No DLC news for RE8 in a year, folks. Wow!
In all the time they squander on remakes with omitted content, that's money they could have put towards something totally new. You know? That people just want to play the same old crap, it's sad.
I'll say one thing: Naughty Dog informs their fans. They also challenge their fans when necessary. They made it known Laura Bailey being harassed wasn't cool, for example. They're absolutely dedicated over there. You have to at least give them kudos where it's due.
Not trying to be a Naughty Dog fanboy, or a suck up. But they earned my respect. They are passionate about delivering a game that will be praised for the ages. But even Naughty Dog fans can be spiteful and awkward. Moaning about Joel dying and Abby looking all manly, and there being a girl who pretends to be a boy, and whatnot, when the game is otherwise brilliant.
Capcom on the other hand, is just flat out greedy. Why remake RE4 anyway? Oh, but it will sell countless units no doubt, because you got these so-called "hardcore fans" of the franchise that never even touched, nor truly cared for the old PlayStation 1 games, saying it's so amazing. But RE4 in my opinion, is incredibly overrated. If you go on GameFAQs, they act so smart. But trust me. They don't care for the retro classics one bit.
Like imagine killing a giant ogre and getting gold bars, and then selling stuff to a vendor with no wagon, and being able to blast up everything in your path. That's not scary Resident Evil. Neither is RE8 quite frankly, if I had to be honest. But it's just how it is. They're always glorifying these games, but the story makes no sense at all.
The Last of Us actually has a story in the backbone, worth discussing.
I'm glad that story is 1:1, they've preserved the original performances!
And visually the entire game looks gorgeous now. PS3 version was limited in so many ways during regular gameplay [pre-rendered shots look better], at the end of the day, everything had to fit in ~ 200MB+200MB of memory.
While I think that original game has very serviceable gameplay, it will be so nice to get full TLOU2 gameplay treatment [new movement options, better animations, enemy AI]. If they go full TLOU2 on gameplay, they will need to re-design exploration and combat environments to better take advantage of new user options [dodge, jump, going prone, hiding in grass, going through cracks...].
And visually the entire game looks gorgeous now. PS3 version was limited in so many ways during regular gameplay [pre-rendered shots look better], at the end of the day, everything had to fit in ~ 200MB+200MB of memory.
While I think that original game has very serviceable gameplay, it will be so nice to get full TLOU2 gameplay treatment [new movement options, better animations, enemy AI]. If they go full TLOU2 on gameplay, they will need to re-design exploration and combat environments to better take advantage of new user options [dodge, jump, going prone, hiding in grass, going through cracks...].
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The first game was one of the most perfect for me in terms of length. There was no extraneous padding and unnecessary story, which definitely did feel like an issue - for me at least - in Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us Part II. Both of which had segments that dragged on too long.
I have replayed the original TLoU about once a year since it launched, but having acclimatised to the mechanics in Part II, I've really struggled to go back to the original mechanics. I'll definitely be picking this up this when it's on sale. It would be been nice, although really out of character for Sony, to have a reduced price for those people's accounts show that bought the original game twice (PS3, and PS4) and bought Part II.
I get Sony want to keep profitable, so I'll bide time...
Sony really should have this game launch day one on their PlayStation Plus Extra tier. That way it's only an extra $10 for one month rental to all their loyal consumers. That's the closest they'll get to it being just a $10 Patch Upgrade that it really should be for owners of the previous Remaster.
Cynicalking
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It's a remake. Why are people calling it a remaster still?
At 70 bucks imma wait for a sale.
This is a close to confirmation of changes to levels as we have right now:
Enhanced visuals: Completely rebuilt from the ground up using Naughty Dog's latest PS5™ engine technology to improve every visual detail, The Last of Us™ experience has been faithfully enhanced with more realistic lighting and atmosphere, more intricate environments and creative reimaginings of familiar spaces.
Enhanced visuals: Completely rebuilt from the ground up using Naughty Dog's latest PS5™ engine technology to improve every visual detail, The Last of Us™ experience has been faithfully enhanced with more realistic lighting and atmosphere, more intricate environments and creative reimaginings of familiar spaces.
Same exact story that faithfully reproduces the previous experiences is kind of splitting hairs on that remastered twice over versus remake distinction is. Now if it truly had TLOU2 mechanics and additional content and a difference in story then I can see it being an actual Remake. When it looks to be 1:1 matching up so closely, it doesn't look like a remake.
Cynicalking
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So, to you, Demon’s Souls on PS5 is not a remake, since gameplay and content is exactly the same as the original?
Has any gameplay been shown to assume that it matches 1:1 with the original? AFAIK we've seen mostly if not exclusively cinematics.
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Zombietoid
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There was a time when Naughty Dog lied about Joel having more scenes, but we can totally forgive them now. 
Cynicalking
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How do we determine the touching up VS new?
Has Sony/nd/nixxes announced their new character models are new instead of touched up from previous models?
This feels like the conundrums of "new game engine" that's actually was not brand new, but an evolved old engine.
Has Sony/nd/nixxes announced their new character models are new instead of touched up from previous models?
This feels like the conundrums of "new game engine" that's actually was not brand new, but an evolved old engine.
