Nebuchadnezzar
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The FlowFX noise.
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Nebuchadnezzar
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MuFu said:LAME.
Nah... just joking, that's pretty funny.
MuFu.
I was about to say very bad words about you before i saw the end of your post
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm
http://www.howstuffworks.com/hearing7.htm
There's some decibel and hearing info for all From the greatest source of information ever, HowStuffWorks.com
And I do not like the FlowFX solution one bit.. 77db ... That's what me and my former roomie had in our room when BOTH our computers were running with their cases open.. That was two Titan Majesty T5's or whatever they were running at 12v and one GF2MX cooler plus a Titan 5"25' slot cooler solution... The noise was horrible.. And to get noise like that from ONE goddamn GPU cooler.. It's just unbearable.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/hearing7.htm
There's some decibel and hearing info for all
From the greatest source of information ever, HowStuffWorks.com And I do not like the FlowFX solution one bit.. 77db ... That's what me and my former roomie had in our room when BOTH our computers were running with their cases open.. That was two Titan Majesty T5's or whatever they were running at 12v and one GF2MX cooler plus a Titan 5"25' slot cooler solution... The noise was horrible.. And to get noise like that from ONE goddamn GPU cooler.. It's just unbearable.
honesty equals the best policy?
I can't help wonder how many people now believe that the FX is clocked too high for its current 0.13 process?
I know nVidia stated many moons ago that the GeforceFX would clock at 500 but wouldn't it be simply wiser for them to launch the FX at 400 and without that rediculous fan and wait for their new .13 process to mature. I can't blame them for the fact the process couldn't deliver on the low_k front but to pretend the card can deliver at 500 is pushing the boundaries of common sense a little too far!
Again I see nVidias PR at work here trying to pretend all is well when I think even the most ardent Nvidia fan (pardon the pun would acknowledge the FX isn't currently suitable for the retail market at 500mhz. A simple launch at 400 with a statement denoting that an ultra version would follow seems to be a far more sensible approach. I guess the bragging rghts of the so called benchies mean more than actually having a viable product. Lets be honest how many people could put up with the fan noise without head phones?
I certainly wouldn't want to be an early adopter of the FX. Jeez the product is simply too little too late pushed to and above its limits . I could have respected nVidia a little more if they'd simply launched the FX stable and cool and at the clock rates it can honestly support without the need for a monstrous and unusable cooling solution.
I can't help wonder how many people now believe that the FX is clocked too high for its current 0.13 process?
I know nVidia stated many moons ago that the GeforceFX would clock at 500 but wouldn't it be simply wiser for them to launch the FX at 400 and without that rediculous fan and wait for their new .13 process to mature. I can't blame them for the fact the process couldn't deliver on the low_k front but to pretend the card can deliver at 500 is pushing the boundaries of common sense a little too far!
Again I see nVidias PR at work here trying to pretend all is well when I think even the most ardent Nvidia fan (pardon the pun
would acknowledge the FX isn't currently suitable for the retail market at 500mhz. A simple launch at 400 with a statement denoting that an ultra version would follow seems to be a far more sensible approach. I guess the bragging rghts of the so called benchies mean more than actually having a viable product. Lets be honest how many people could put up with the fan noise without head phones?I certainly wouldn't want to be an early adopter of the FX. Jeez the product is simply too little too late pushed to and above its limits . I could have respected nVidia a little more if they'd simply launched the FX stable and cool and at the clock rates it can honestly support without the need for a monstrous and unusable cooling solution.
misae said:
It is a major concern for me if nVidia is going to stick to this cooling system. This kind of noise is out of the question when you first have tried a water cooled system.
misae said:
I think so. Anyway it's very easy to water cool a Radeon 9700 Pro on your own. 8)
Extreme Tech measured it at a distance approx. where your left ear would be, and they recorded 58 dB on the FX (54 on the 9700 Pro). An upright vacuum cleaner is typically 70-73 dB at the distance your ear is when you operate it, so I find it very difficult to believe anyone will have hearing problems with a fan that's 3-4 times quieter than a vacuum cleaner. You certainly won't need to wear ear plugs.
Joe DeFuria
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Agreed....though I'm not sure anyone is seriously pushing the idea that it could damage your hearing?
In any case, not "requiring" ear plugs is one thing....being thoroughly annoyed is something else.
Crusher said:
Listening to the MP3s clearly allows any listener to realise that the FX is not a little louder than the 9700. Perhaps you're confusing it's 2D performance sound level which is comparable?
From the sites I've read and sound samples I've listened to the FX is much louder at full throttle than the 9700 and pushes the boundaries.
Suggesting they're even close just isn't plausible in my book, I'd suggest you listen to Toms sample or read Brents comment s or even Anands.
All seem to indicate the FX is far too noisy to be practical!
Ascended Saiyan
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Nebuchadnezzar said:http://www.blarg.net/~jameswj/noisy.JPG
Are you ready ?
Deflection
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What's generating more noise?
This thread or the FX?
This thread or the FX?
Deflection said:
As long as it keeps the "hahaha loud fan" jokes out of the rest of the discussions, I'm all for this thread.
Seiko said:
I never said that it was "a little louder" than the 9700 Pro, I said Extreme Tech claimed they recorded a 4 dB difference at normal operating distances. 4 dB is actually about 2.5 times as much pressure. And I was incorrect in my vacuum cleaner comparison, a 73 dB vacuum cleaner would be almost 32 times as much pressure as the FX cooler.
I have listened to the mp3's. In fact, I listened to them before responding to this. I'm not saying it's not loud, I'm saying claims like "FlowFX isn't just annoying noisy, but is also close to reach safety marigins to cause noise hearing related symptoms" are overboard.
And to be honest, it wasn't the volume of the fan that I found unpleasant in the mp3, it was the high pitch of it. It reminds me more of a hair dryer than a vacuum cleaner.
When nVidia showed the FX at Comdex Scandinavia it didn't make nowhere near as much noise as these preview are talking about.
Now that I think about it, perhaps it was running in "2D mode" and that's why the performance in Dawn sucked so badly...
Well, I wonder what changes nVidia made that makes them say the retail product will be much better.
Now that I think about it, perhaps it was running in "2D mode" and that's why the performance in Dawn sucked so badly...
Well, I wonder what changes nVidia made that makes them say the retail product will be much better.
