The AMD 9070 / 9070XT Reviews and Discussion Thread

Sega_Model_4 said:
I saw the Gamer Nexus analysis and one thing he pointed out was that despite the 5070 generating more FPS, the game had a lot of stuttering due to reaching the VRAM limit, while on the 9070XT, the performance was more solid.
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At 4k RT Ultra/Medium (non PT) without DLSS/FSR in which all the cards mentioned are under 30 fps, and which the 9070XT is faster than the 5070 in avg fps as well.

This is neither a relevant academic scenario in terms of discussing the relative strengths of the architectures from a path tracing perspective. Nor a relevant scenario from an user playing the game perspective.

 
Kaotik said:
At least nordics are getting few hundreds of cards per brand at MSRP prices for tomorrow, but once they're out AIB pricing comes in and is a whole another story.
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The UK is getting a lot of MSRP model cards. Even if prices rise above MSRP later, the card could still be a great buy. Other cards are nowhere near MSRP and have almost no stock.
 
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Sega_Model_4 said:
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AMD's new RDNA 4 GPUs are launching today. The Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ is a fantastic custom design with powerful cooling and whisper-quiet fans. In terms of FPS, the RX 9070 XT offers competitive performance with similarly priced NVIDIA options in both raster and ray tracing.
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The 9070 gets ~14% more perf which roughly matches a 9070XT for what appears to be ~260-280w.
Appears they put a hard power limit (under 300w) on the 9070 to not push it over the 9070XT.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9070-tuf-oc/43.html

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From TPU's 9070 TUF OC review linked just above: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9070-tuf-oc/42.html
Since it's W1zzard (GPU-Z author) doing the review, I really don't want to second guess the numbers, but those... can't be right, can they? (the voltages in particular)

The cards don't seem particularly efficient in the power consumption charts for idle or multi monitor either, so I'm thinking maybe just a telemetry issue.

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Looking at the reviews the 9070xt is a major step foward for amd but isn't fully where they need to be. I think if you were looking at the $500 market it be much smarter to purchase the 9070xt over the 5070 non ti. $50 gets you 4 gigs more ram and much better performance in the majority of titles out there. Certainly if you are willing to spend $750 then the obvious choice would be a 5070ti.

I don't understand the 9070 at $550. My only guess is they are getting much more fully working dies and would rather push for a modest up sell than to go cheaper like say $400-450 (what it should be priced at for its performance) and use up dies that could have gone to the $600 card.

I could only imagine what this launch would have been if they hit the $550 price point on the 9070xt. It would have been exact same price as the 5070 and would have really pushed market share for AMD. I also think it would have been better for amd if they had another chip that they could have placed in the $800 price point. Judging on these cards they should have been able to compete with a 5080.

For me with a 3080 I don't see enough reason to upgrade to either this card of a 5070ti and the 5080 also doesn't justify enough dropping that much money on a modest performance gain in the games I am playing. Maybe next year with revisions to both amd and nvidia's line ups or I might be able to sit another generation completely out
 
Wesker said:
Isn't HUB like the anti-Christ for you guys?
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Well to be fair the dude did find it absolutely necessary to remove a 1% overclock on the 5070 Ti that he reviewed but he felt no such compulsion for the equally overclocked 9070 XT that he tested. I'm sure it was just an honest mistake.

"For testing, Nvidia sent over the MSI Ventus 3X version of the 5070 Ti, which is overclocked above spec. However, for all testing, we ran the card at reference clock speeds, as we do with all models."

Or maybe he meant all Nvidia models :sneaky:
 
eastmen said:
Looking at the reviews the 9070xt is a major step foward for amd but isn't fully where they need to be. I think if you were looking at the $500 market it be much smarter to purchase the 9070xt over the 5070 non ti. $50 gets you 4 gigs more ram and much better performance in the majority of titles out there. Certainly if you are willing to spend $750 then the obvious choice would be a 5070ti.
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I'm still reading through the reviews but my overall feeling is a bit similar: I don't see why this would be any disruption to the market or sell much better than the assortment of N31 parts they've had previously. The overall relative positioning hasn't changed much. FSR4 is nice and is seemingly on DLSS3 level (avoiding the issues of relative games support here) but the comparison has moved to DLSS4 now. RT is certainly improved to a point where for games with lighter RT usage it isn't a problem anymore - but we've had such games previously as well, I'm not sure if the change in numbers here will mean much.
 
DegustatoR said:
I don't see why this would be any disruption to the market or sell much better than the assortment of N31 parts they've had previously
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these were lower margin for AMD and that is all that matters.
N48 is nice and cost-optimized, now they only gotta slap some 24Gb GDDR7 for a 9080XT.
 
DegustatoR said:
I'm still reading through the reviews but my overall feeling is a bit similar: I don't see why this would be any disruption to the market or sell much better than the assortment of N31 parts they've had previously. The overall relative positioning hasn't changed much. FSR4 is nice and is seemingly on DLSS3 level (avoiding the issues of relative games support here) but the comparison has moved to DLSS4 now. RT is certainly improved to a point where for games with lighter RT usage it isn't a problem anymore - but we've had such games previously as well, I'm not sure if the change in numbers here will mean much.
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This would have been a big disruption if this launched when rdna 3 did. Right now its still a major step foward for them. It would have been better if they got closer in rt performance. however this generation in these price points we can at least say they are competitive again. The 9070xt is a much better card than the 5070 and is $50 more. That is a win for all of us consumers. Now we need them to compete with the 5080 too lol. Imagine $800 for 5080 raster performance and 5070ti + ray tracing performance with 24 gigs of ram. Would be a killer card
 
Bondrewd said:
these were lower margin for AMD and that is all that matters.
N48 is nice and cost-optimized, now they only gotta slap some 24Gb GDDR7 for a 9080XT.
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It's a really nice improvement over RDNA 3. The 7900 XTX is only 10% faster at 4K even though it has 26% more flops and fillrate and 50% (!!) more CUs, bandwidth and cache. All at a much more compact die size with cheaper packaging. AMD pulled the trigger on consumer chiplets a little early.

DegustatoR said:
I'm still reading through the reviews but my overall feeling is a bit similar: I don't see why this would be any disruption to the market or sell much better than the assortment of N31 parts they've had previously. The overall relative positioning hasn't changed much. FSR4 is nice and is seemingly on DLSS3 level (avoiding the issues of relative games support here) but the comparison has moved to DLSS4 now. RT is certainly improved to a point where for games with lighter RT usage it isn't a problem anymore - but we've had such games previously as well, I'm not sure if the change in numbers here will mean much.
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The current supply situation and huge improvements to FSR and RT will likely entice some folks to go AMD who otherwise may not have but yeah I wouldn't expect much long-term market share disruption given the competitive landscape and AMD's priorities in datacenter.
 
Bondrewd said:
they benefit from this in the $599 SRP.

no, they can't disrupt anything without an 800W halo part.
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The majority of sales aren't halo part sales. They just need to offer very good performance at the most popular price points. 5070-5070 ti performance at 5070 pricing is a great start. 5080 performance at 5070ti pricing would be a great follow up.

but like i said if rdna 4 came out when rdna 3 came out it would have been disruptive because lets face it , these are very similar to the 7900xt/x while using a lot less power.
 
Ah, I see why CB.de got such results for 9070 (ends up higher than 5070 on average even with "lite" RT) - it's a factory OCed model with about +7% clocks to reference.
Puts it awfully close to their less OCed 9070XT.
 
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