That marketshare discussion that won't stop invading every other thread *spawn*

[Deleted member 13524]

Guys I have an idea: let's stop feeding the "PS5 is a paper launch" user and talk about the RDNA2 GPUs?

Earlier in 2021 NV tech press Brief had 20 Million discrete RTX GPUs out there in gamer hands. There are definitely more RTX GPUs than PS5s Sold to date.

I really wish your first statement was true because it would have made my quest for upgrading my system a lot easier, but we all know they're not in gamer hands.
Unless by gamer hands you actually mean in a server/farm playing a game called Mining-for-Ethereum. Not even the laptop GPUs are safe from that destiny.


OTOH it's pretty safe to say >99.99% of PS5, Series X and Series S are in gamers' hands. Neither of them is being used to mine ETH.

Not doing your job here. You introduced a statement, your obligation to provide facts. BTW - your strawmanning again.

And as I've shown with a hard number of gaming laptops, even if only 20% of those go with RT capable hardware, we're at a signifcant number compared to what the point was about ~10M PS5.

What is IDC calling a "Gaming Laptop" in that survey? Anything with a discrete GPU? Is a Core i3 + Geforce MX130 a gaming laptop? Anything with a Vega or Iris iGPU?
The non-paywalled article is very vague about this (also, 21 Million gaming monitors?! Is a "gaming monitor" anything that supports Freesync?)

And is there any data supporting your assumption of 20% of the gaming laptops having RTX discrete GPUs?

 

[HLJ]

I really wish your first statement was true because it would have made my quest for upgrading my system a lot easier, but we all know they're not in gamer hands.

Citation needed.
Since you KNOW, you must have data.
If not, you need to Google the word "know".

I have 2 DXR SKU's...not mining.

 

[CarstenS]

What is IDC calling a "Gaming Laptop" in that survey?

Gaming branded, avg. price of 1041 US-$.

Not dancing around the strawman any more though. The point was there being more RTX cards out than PS5.

We have a number of >10M PS5 without anything to back it up, later there was a link to 9M PS5 for end of june.
Then we have a number of ~20M RTX cards from end of january.

 

[Kaotik]

OTOH it's pretty safe to say >99.99% of PS5, Series X and Series S are in gamers' hands. Neither of them is being used to mine ETH.

You sure? If they're not, it's only because no-one figured a way to yet. They use even PS4's for mining now
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ukrainian-authorities-recover-500-gpus-3800-ps4-crypto-bust

 

[tsa1]

You sure? If they're not, it's only because no-one figured a way to yet. They use even PS4's for mining now

They are "mining" FIFA lootboxes, not crypto, apparently it's more lucrative

 

[Kaotik]

They are "mining" FIFA lootboxes, not crypto, apparently it's more lucrative

Oh

 

[Deleted member 2197]

A new spike in the price trend of graphics cards can be spotted (guru3d.com)
August 29, 2021

For a time, it appeared like the prices of video cards were heading in the correct direction, but this appears to be changing once more. According to a study conducted by 3DCenter, prices are once again on the rise. Because of these price hikes, Nvidia cards are now 59 percent more costly than the MSRP, and AMD cards are 64 percent more expensive than the MSRP.

Many people are surprised by the price rises, as fewer purchases are being made in China due to the country's tough laws on cryptocurrency mining. The fact that Ethereum produces less means that miners will acquire fewer cards as a result of this. It is speculated that TSMC's price rises may be linked to this development. The fact that the amount of RTX 3060 and 3060 TI cards that Nvidia will supply has also been reduced by half could potentially be a contributing factor in this decision.

 

[xpea]

Last JPR GPU add-in board market report for Q2 is out and, as expected, Nvidia increased its market share to 80%
https://www.techpowerup.com/286270/...oard-aib-market-hits-usd-11-8-billion-in-q221