Switch 2 Speculation
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Anyone with a Steam library could prefer the Ally 2 over the Switch 2. But of course Switch 2 will easily outsell it.. in the first week alone lol.
Charlietus
Regular
No matter the specs, games or anything else, the branding power of Nintendo right now is enormous. People are going to buy without thinking much, it's just the successor to the Switch.
Subtlesnake
Regular
Above a certain clock speed, then the voltage will need to rise beyond the minimum level. But we are talking about the situation where the narrower chip is still clocked below this point.
Well, definitive statements like this are always proven wrong.
Out of the few people who already own one of those handhled PCs, some won't buy the Switch 2 because most of their gaming needs is already addressed. When the time to upgrade comes, maybe some will go with a more powerful one, because once you have a PC library, why change?
Also, AMD is also not the only one company designing chips. In two weeks, Intel's Lunar Lake will debut in this market with the new Claw, and the results are very good at 8w.
At the lower end of the scope, you also have a lot of very good Android consoles sporting Qualcomm chips, and they are perfect for all things retro, indie and free to play.
And it's nearly granted we'll see a PSP3 and a portable Xbox, so, yeah, competition is there, and it will only grow stronger and better over the next few years.
In my view, the Switch 2 will be good (8nm) or great (5LPP or better). But all thoses devices are also rather good in their own right. And this time around we had no shortage of good Nintendo games to create this anticipation for new Nintendo stuff like we had after the last half of the Wii and the full (short) life of the WiiU, quite the opposite I'd say.
I know some "market reports" recently projected the Switch 2 to be a huge success. I hope it will be, but I personnally think it will "just" be a success, not a huge one (as in ~100M consoles lifetime total AND a lower attach rate)
Thats because they cater to different markets. Thats like saying nobody is going to buy a 5090 over a PS5 Pro
for $300, it'd be weaker than what we're actually gettingHow much tech and performance could Nintendo put in a device which is expected to target $300?
Or maybe with PS5 and XBX raising the price threshold of consoles, Nintendo will target $400 or even $450.
But still have COGS appropriate for a $300 handheld.
neckthrough
Regular
US inflation from March 2017 -> now would scale the MSRP from $300 to $385. I would expect $400 retail, but that's before any new tariffs. With tariffs maybe 450.How much tech and performance could Nintendo put in a device which is expected to target $300?
Or maybe with PS5 and XBX raising the price threshold of consoles, Nintendo will target $400 or even $450.
But still have COGS appropriate for a $300 handheld.
cheapchips
Veteran
Newly published patent for Nintendo's DLSS system (via Laura Dale on Bluesky).
Bit weird to have it's own patent? Why is it not just DLSS?
Bit weird to have it's own patent? Why is it not just DLSS?
it's not "new", it's an extension of a patent they published in 2023. it's about machine learning on images in general with specific notes for real-time applications, but not limited to it. Nintendo does have a division who is doing ML research and that research has been applied to a couple of their games already (Pikmin 1+2 and Mario Sunshine)
It's bollocks - that's what it is. "We patent that thing everyone else has already done where you upscale with ML."
Tkumpathenurple
Veteran
Sorry Shifty, but I've patented calling things bollocks. Expect to hear from my legal team. They're the bollocks.
That is such a broad patent when you read it. The patent system is such a load of Bollocks as @Shifty Geezer says.
Meh. I'll just patent it after you've patented it.
cheapchips
Veteran
I have prior art as I once upscaled something.
Its the same market.
I looked up how the Alloy X performs with the Silent mode (APU at 12W) and the GPU clock rate falls down to 800Mhz:
Its not the same market. Switch is a cheap handheld for families, the technology is designed around that BOM. Ally X is an expensive piece of hardware for enthusiasts
It has an 80 watt battery. You can run it at 17 watts and it will easily outperform NSW2 third party games and offer the same battery life
And thats on an old chip designed before AMD realized there is a market for handhelds.
If you think its the same market then you obviously arent the target consumer. But there are consumers who want 120 fps high settings gaming. You will be perfectly happy with Switch third party
Why does AMD need to go wide? Like i told you, when you have 80-90 watt batteries then you can clock high. The only problem with Z1 Extreme is the low bandwidth. Besides both Microsoft and Sony are rumoured to come out with handhelds. The APU designs will obviously cater to their needs
