SonyEricssons mystery phone
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davefb said:how can europe be behind in 3g rollout when it's already rolled out for 2 yrs ?
mind you the flipping 3g phones are crap,, or at least the one i have
One reason might be that no one's buying the freaking things, and Vodafone and the other major providers are only starting their 3G services from next year. At least in the UK.
Personally, i don't need a 3G phone. Maybe when all my friends will have one, i'll get one too, but at the moment i'm spending way too much as it is, god knows what i'll end up paying if i had a 3G phone to mess around with (My last mobile phone bill was 100 quid, the one before 250, the one before 200)...
3G = WCDMA or CDMA2000, not GPRS/EDGE.
3G is not "rolled out" in Europe, it has spot network coverage and trials, not full blown EU coverage. Some countries, namely Austria, Denmark, Italy, Sweden, and U.K had small rollouts.
In part because Europe chose the wrong technology (WCDMA), it is much more expensive to upgrade to 3G, than it is for, say, Sprint and Verizon to upgrade to EVDO/EVDV, so telecommunication companies are obviously balking at the price and declining ARPU. Intense competition between the technologies is forcing Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T to push up plans for rollouts, with EVDO from Verizon covering almost every city by end of 2005.
As for guessing the features, I don't know, my only point is, I don't buy phones as fashion accessories, I buy them to do things, so features matter way more for me than "cool look". Posting a pic of a phone without any specifications is what I am complaining about.
And I can't live without bluetooth/syncml/push email now.
3G is not "rolled out" in Europe, it has spot network coverage and trials, not full blown EU coverage. Some countries, namely Austria, Denmark, Italy, Sweden, and U.K had small rollouts.
In part because Europe chose the wrong technology (WCDMA), it is much more expensive to upgrade to 3G, than it is for, say, Sprint and Verizon to upgrade to EVDO/EVDV, so telecommunication companies are obviously balking at the price and declining ARPU. Intense competition between the technologies is forcing Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T to push up plans for rollouts, with EVDO from Verizon covering almost every city by end of 2005.
As for guessing the features, I don't know, my only point is, I don't buy phones as fashion accessories, I buy them to do things, so features matter way more for me than "cool look". Posting a pic of a phone without any specifications is what I am complaining about.
And I can't live without bluetooth/syncml/push email now.
london-boy said:
Things are going rather well in Sweden. 3G works and reaches 90+ percent of the population - at least with voice, image calls is much spottier of course. There's some problems with early phones disconnecting when switching between GSM and 3G too, but that has been improved, perhaps with firmware updates. Sales are brisk too now with many models sold out completely even though they were fairly sluggish a year or so ago.
DemoCoder said:
An even bigger problem IMO with 3G in Europe are the insanely high prices the companies paid for the frequency licenses (e.g. Germany: ~8 Billion EUR for each company). Most companies don't think they will amortize their expenses in the near future and are quite unwilling to spend more money for (unneccessarily expensive, as mentioned by you) infrastructure that's outdated before they make profits with it.
Simon F said:
IIRC it was the same in most other countries in the EU (I wanted to say that thing about bidding in my earlier post, but just noticed I didn't...)
Well, those were the high times of the dot-com era...Companies spending shitloads of money for New Economy stuff, regardless wether it makes sense or not.
Katsura said:
huh? we had that new GSM thang about a year now. well, they was sellin them phones... but they didnt really work no-whar cept in town. now they dun got some towers or somethin up cause my phone hardly ever goes to that old TDMA mode. it used to almost always be in TDMA mode. GSM sure is neat with them color phones... and about a year ago we even got one in the store that would take pictures! well, but that was on sprint. we dont use sprint cause you get a few miles off the interstate and it dont work no more. but it sure was a pretty-lookin phone.
and i like that new text message thing too. most people dont have phones that can do it though
and it cost like 10 cents each so i try not to use em muchSage said:Katsura said:
huh? we had that new GSM thang about a year now. well, they was sellin them phones... but they didnt really work no-whar cept in town. now they dun got some towers or somethin up cause my phone hardly ever goes to that old TDMA mode. it used to almost always be in TDMA mode. GSM sure is neat with them color phones... and about a year ago we even got one in the store that would take pictures! well, but that was on sprint. we dont use sprint cause you get a few miles off the interstate and it dont work no more. but it sure was a pretty-lookin phone.
and i like that new text message thing too. most people dont have phones that can do it though
PC-Engine said:Sage said:Katsura said:
huh? we had that new GSM thang about a year now. well, they was sellin them phones... but they didnt really work no-whar cept in town. now they dun got some towers or somethin up cause my phone hardly ever goes to that old TDMA mode. it used to almost always be in TDMA mode. GSM sure is neat with them color phones... and about a year ago we even got one in the store that would take pictures! well, but that was on sprint. we dont use sprint cause you get a few miles off the interstate and it dont work no more. but it sure was a pretty-lookin phone.
and i like that new text message thing too. most people dont have phones that can do it though
ye think I jest?
