But the PopCap games are a threat to Wii?
Right, and the iPhone is a threat to the DS!
Sony Financial Results, FY to 31-Mar-09
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Right, and the iPhone is a threat to the DS!
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Mostly serious. Obviously there's a big gap in pricing between the iPhone and DS, but stuff like Nintendogs and Brain Age are the very type of game that would work really well on the iPhone. Really I just think there's a greater overlap between the experiences provided by the DS and iPhone than there is between the PSP and iPhone. That's not to say the iPhone presents some existential threat to the DS. Both are actually just really good at expanding the market for games to new demographics.
Sony gave up the ghost on marketshare and price pressures from rivals along time ago when they saw the global storm clouds approaching, Yen strengh etc. Wasnt it 1st quarter they publically admitted getting profititable not market share is now the defining factor at SCEI. Making enough compelling content on the PS3 to carve out there own market and get profitable while atleast maintaining acceptable hardware sales. Which i think they've done upto now. That's in response to people thinking there's a console war on in this thread.
Yes, there are thousands of game for the iphone.
How many where sold? I dont have an exact figure, but i recall reading that your average iphone owner bought 12 times more apps than any other mobile phone user group.
Iphone is like the Wii, a licence to press money. They have had amazing sales, and they make a fortune from software on app store.
That report is ridiculous.
Its obvious that the estimates are drawed up from thin air, based on nothing.
Look at the estimates, they expect that the App store has sold between 25-50 million paid apps. What kind of bullshit estimate is that?
Its obvious that they are drawing numbers from thin air, as any statistics model would pin point a far more accurate estimate (lower spread), if not, they would conclude that something in their model is missing and not publish your findings at all. Obviously, if you cannot decide if there has been sold 25 million or twice the amount, 50 million, then there is something seriously missing.
Thats equivalent of saying that you dont have clue. They have similarly huuuuuge spreads for all the others numbers. They have no accuracy whatsoever.
That being said, the app store might very well be breaking even (i havent looked at the numbers), however this report is worthless.
Its obvious that the estimates are drawed up from thin air, based on nothing.
Look at the estimates, they expect that the App store has sold between 25-50 million paid apps. What kind of bullshit estimate is that?
Its obvious that they are drawing numbers from thin air, as any statistics model would pin point a far more accurate estimate (lower spread), if not, they would conclude that something in their model is missing and not publish your findings at all. Obviously, if you cannot decide if there has been sold 25 million or twice the amount, 50 million, then there is something seriously missing.
Thats equivalent of saying that you dont have clue. They have similarly huuuuuge spreads for all the others numbers. They have no accuracy whatsoever.
That being said, the app store might very well be breaking even (i havent looked at the numbers), however this report is worthless.
They no doubt do this because it is break even at best. The study proves it.
they did release numbers after the first month in operation
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/08/1...pplications-bring-in-1-million-every-day.html
$30 million revenue from >60million apps downloaded
maintaining the same rate
~$500 million from >billion apps downloaded
ok this is revenue, not profit + apple gets 30%, developer 70% i think
since the average price of the apps is very low (unlike ds/psp + console stuff), a couple of bucks.
25-50 million paid apps, wouldnt even be a ballpark figure
BTW I wonder what sales would be on consoles if games had a more flexible pricing structure?
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/08/1...pplications-bring-in-1-million-every-day.html
$30 million revenue from >60million apps downloaded
maintaining the same rate
~$500 million from >billion apps downloaded
ok this is revenue, not profit + apple gets 30%, developer 70% i think
since the average price of the apps is very low (unlike ds/psp + console stuff), a couple of bucks.
25-50 million paid apps, wouldnt even be a ballpark figure
BTW I wonder what sales would be on consoles if games had a more flexible pricing structure?
That report is ridiculous.
Its obvious that the estimates are drawed up from thin air, based on nothing.
Look at the estimates, they expect that the App store has sold between 25-50 million paid apps. What kind of bullshit estimate is that?
Its obvious that they are drawing numbers from thin air, as any statistics model would pin point a far more accurate estimate (lower spread), if not, they would conclude that something in their model is missing and not publish your findings at all. Obviously, if you cannot decide if there has been sold 25 million or twice the amount, 50 million, then there is something seriously missing.
Thats equivalent of saying that you dont have clue. They have similarly huuuuuge spreads for all the others numbers. They have no accuracy whatsoever.
That being said, the app store might very well be breaking even (i havent looked at the numbers), however this report is worthless.
Have you got something better? Geez lighten up dude. When confronted between forum poster or somewhat sourced/relevant report, I'll take the latter.
You neglect to mention that it really doesnt matter whether they sell 25 or 50 m, either way the numbers wont work out to great profit.
Frankly, Itunes is similar. People want to point out software as a gold mine, but software is a pittance for Apple compared to hardware.
This model is probably becoming increasingly relevant in gaming as well. Something like the PSP sells terribly little software, but it sells decently as hardware. If you're going to make make money off the whole project, profitable hardware will be key. This also applies to DS and Wii. Wii hardware sells like gangbusters, and of course it's quite profitable.
