Silent Hill 3 for cheap!
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marconelly!
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8.4 is pretty damn good for Gamespot. SH2 got much lower than that. At least they gave SH3 a 10 for graphics, as it deserves.
Zurich, can you give me the phone number of that EB store that is selling it for $50. I called my local EB yesterday, and they told me it's $75. If I tell them one of their stores is selling it for $50 maybe they will lower the price.
Zurich, can you give me the phone number of that EB store that is selling it for $50. I called my local EB yesterday, and they told me it's $75. If I tell them one of their stores is selling it for $50 maybe they will lower the price.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051826273579&type=product
seems like Best Buy has it at 39.99, maybe it was just a special at your local Best Buy?
seems like Best Buy has it at 39.99, maybe it was just a special at your local Best Buy?
marconelly!
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Thanks!
I've been in Canada for few years now, but I'm not exactly a Canadian. Why the surprise?
*hmpf* I just gave that store a call and they told me the price is $59.99
I didn't ask for Melanie, though.
I've been in Canada for few years now, but I'm not exactly a Canadian. Why the surprise?
*hmpf* I just gave that store a call and they told me the price is $59.99
I didn't ask for Melanie, though.
marconelly! said:Thanks!
I've been in Canada for few years now, but I'm not exactly a Canadian. Why the surprise?
*hmpf* I just gave that store a call and they told me the price is $59.99
I didn't ask for Melanie, though.
Yea, you have to get them to price match with Best Buy, then you get it for $49.99
No surprise, just always thought you were Swedish or something
SH3 is great, Konami has pulled another miracle rabbit (albeit a bloody one) out of their PS2-hat. On my crappy composite TV, I run noise on/'normal', as the 'sharp' option gives way too much flicker/aliasing. And as for all the naysayers who said the screenshots were bull.. well, HA! It looks exactly as was depicted
I swear though, it seems in some of the cutscenes with the high LOD models that the background is replaced with a low res bitmap to simulate DOF, and conserve memory. I was wrong a few times when the camera eventually moved from that shot, but I still think the backgrounds are often a little 'funny', be it the perspective, relative cleanness, or just plain don't look right. Screenshots don't really work though, you have to see it in motion. I can't pin point it, but the models have that certain REmake look about them, as if they were infront of a 2d background (again, talking about the high LOD model cutscenes here, usally close ups).I'm only an hour in, but the story is pretty weak in comparison to SH2's. Hopefully it'll pick up.
marconelly!
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OK, so what Best Buy number should they call? I can't find any number on bestbuy.ca site.
I think i know what you're saying about cutscenes, but I think it's only because it's kinda impossible to perform 100% film quality DOF in realtime, so you have blurry backgrounds, and very sharp characters (not even the slighest blurring around farther edges of character's face/body) I think that when they show those extreme closeups, they show such a small part of background that there's not much detail there to begin with, but cosidering some of the scenes actually switch instantly from closeups to wider shots, I doubt they would fake anythig with bitmaps, it would just waste precious memory.
marconelly! said:
You don't call Best Buy, just that EB at the Eaton Centre. When I went in, they already had the Best Buy flyer clipped out with SH3 circled (so they know)
Infact, it was the store manager Melanie who told me about it to begin with heh. Just say "Best Buy has Silent Hill 3 for $49.99 CAD, will you price match it?" And if they say yes, ask them if your local EB will be req'd to honour the price too.If all else fails, Futureshop is selling SH3 for $54.99 CAD
(whats with this? EBGames.com still lists it at $49 USD, and Konami games have a history of having high ASPs)
marconelly!
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Thanks for the help!
I got it in Futureshop, as EB didn't wanted to pricematch with Best Buy (reason: there are no Best Buy stores nearby :\ ) When I told them to pricematch with Futureshop, they gave them a call and told me FS sells it for $60. Sure enough, I went to FS, at the enterance I armed myself with the pamphlet which clearly lists the game at $55, and bought it for that price. Can't wait to finish Ape Escape 2 so that I can start playing SH3)
I got it in Futureshop, as EB didn't wanted to pricematch with Best Buy (reason: there are no Best Buy stores nearby :\ ) When I told them to pricematch with Futureshop, they gave them a call and told me FS sells it for $60. Sure enough, I went to FS, at the enterance I armed myself with the pamphlet which clearly lists the game at $55, and bought it for that price. Can't wait to finish Ape Escape 2 so that I can start playing SH3
)Heh this is funny. I have my Xbox and PS2 running right now, Xbox with SH2:RD, and PS2 with SH3. I'm in Brookhaven Hospital on both... flipping between the inputs, we see a full on case of recycled content! Same went for Heaven's Night :?
Anyone who's finished both have an idea how much regurgitation went on (and I mean reusing SH2 assets)?
I guess I can't really complain too much since I got the game for very cheap, but it still irks me too see this..
(the SH2:RD flashlight still rocks the socks off of the SH3 one 8) )
Anyone who's finished both have an idea how much regurgitation went on (and I mean reusing SH2 assets
)?I guess I can't really complain too much since I got the game for very cheap, but it still irks me too see this..
(the SH2:RD flashlight still rocks the socks off of the SH3 one 8) )
zurich said:Heh this is funny. I have my Xbox and PS2 running right now, Xbox with SH2:RD, and PS2 with SH3. I'm in Brookhaven Hospital on both... flipping between the inputs, we see a full on case of recycled content! Same went for Heaven's Night :?
Anyone who's finished both have an idea how much regurgitation went on (and I mean reusing SH2 assets
I guess I can't really complain too much since I got the game for very cheap, but it still irks me too see this..
(the SH2:RD flashlight still rocks the socks off of the SH3 one 8) )
IMO, for SH2 I like the PC version the most. 1024x768 4xAA 16xAF on R9700Pro rocks.
SH3 may have reused some of the content from SH2, the effects in alternate hospotal is very good. Have you been to the Storage room ?
maskrider said:zurich said:Heh this is funny. I have my Xbox and PS2 running right now, Xbox with SH2:RD, and PS2 with SH3. I'm in Brookhaven Hospital on both... flipping between the inputs, we see a full on case of recycled content! Same went for Heaven's Night :?
Anyone who's finished both have an idea how much regurgitation went on (and I mean reusing SH2 assets
I guess I can't really complain too much since I got the game for very cheap, but it still irks me too see this..
(the SH2:RD flashlight still rocks the socks off of the SH3 one 8) )
IMO, for SH2 I like the PC version the most. 1024x768 4xAA 16xAF on R9700Pro rocks.
SH3 may have reused some of the content from SH2, the effects in alternate hospotal is very good. Have you been to the Storage room ?
OOOOh man, the storage room will definitely go down as one of my top video game moments, ever
Dark BH Hospital was quite amazing, but I couldn't find a map anywhere?? That alone made it more than a little frustrating
Visually, the game is an absolute tour de force. Best models I've seen anywhere thus far, load times are about half a second, great textures and art.. the only thing holding it back is the horribly ugly & distracting flashlight effect
Ah well, unless Konami wants to break up walls and floors into an obscene number of vertices, nothing they can really do about that :?I can't, however, decide whether or not I like the story yet, but I'm only 4 hours in (at the Amusement Park now). Some elements of the game are just too frustrating, and really take away from the atmosphere.. like the annoying enemies (split-head dog things, worst are the crawlers that knock you down everytime, GRRR) and insta-deaths (falling to your death? wtf is this, a platformer? [honourable mention goes to the subway]).
zurich said:OOOOh man, the storage room will definitely go down as one of my top video game moments, ever
Dark BH Hospital was quite amazing, but I couldn't find a map anywhere?? That alone made it more than a little frustrating
But isn't the map of the normal hospital the map of the alternate hospital ? You mean you don't have the map of the hospital ?
zurich said:Visually, the game is an absolute tour de force. Best models I've seen anywhere thus far, load times are about half a second, great textures and art.. the only thing holding it back is the horribly ugly & distracting flashlight effect
I can't, however, decide whether or not I like the story yet, but I'm only 4 hours in (at the Amusement Park now). Some elements of the game are just too frustrating, and really take away from the atmosphere.. like the annoying enemies (split-head dog things, worst are the crawlers that knock you down everytime, GRRR) and insta-deaths (falling to your death? wtf is this, a platformer? [honourable mention goes to the subway]).
The more I play SH2 the more I like SH2 more than SH3. SH3 is more like usual horror games while SH2 is not as explicit as SH3. And for sure Maria is a lot more seductive comparing to Heather, although she is cute.
And about the flash light, I think SH3 is not bad comparing to the PC version of SH2. I have got X-BOX SH2 RD (Japanese version), but haven't really played it.
edit: and BTW, after getting the Lost Memories DVD, I like the SH2 E3 trailer a lot.
marconelly!
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No doubt, but it seems to me they did something with flashlight in SH3 to make it better looking than PS2 SH2. Made the center of the light brighter or something. Also, in the part of the demo where I could use the flashlight (amusment park at the very beginning of the game) I simply couldn't see *any* of that ugly triangulating effect, and I was looking for it. I guess it's just worse in some rooms than it is in others, just like it was in SH2, right?
In other news, I've noticed some small problems about XB version of SH2, that weren't there in the PS2 version. For example, it seems like it actually has slightly less fog, colors look duller (I was flipping the two inputs on my TV) it has some small framerate problems where PS2 runs smooth all the time, but the most weird thing was that they did some kind of conversion to textures, which definitely made them slightly worse looking. There is a small but visible artifacting, kind of banding, on some of them. Despite the better flashlight, there's the feel of the lack of that final polish that Konami games are known for.
PC version was by far the worst in that polish department, due to non-softened shadows and some small but weird texture artifacting.
Heh, not true. Maybe they should have asked Primal/Ghosthunter team for help as those two games definitely feature dynamic lightmaps for their flashlight, just like XB SH2
Then again, I think Cambridge team should have asked Konami for help with everything else, most importantly art direction marconelly!
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I think the main probelm is that they couldn't get shadows to be softened, no matter what the videocard. That kinda ruins the deal for me.
I'm wandering if they'll be able to do that in SH3 PC, because the shadowing system in SH3 is essentially improved version of that from SH2, so it requires post-blur on framebuffer, which was impossible to do at PC cards at the time SH2 was ported.
I'm wandering if they'll be able to do that in SH3 PC, because the shadowing system in SH3 is essentially improved version of that from SH2, so it requires post-blur on framebuffer, which was impossible to do at PC cards at the time SH2 was ported.
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