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Sega: Pachinko Slots Deal Falls Through
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TOKYO - Japanese video game software maker Sega Corp. said Thursday that merger plans with Sammy Corp., a maker of pachinko slot machines, had fallen through.

The two companies had been negotiating to integrate operations since February. But Sega called off the talks as it became clear the combination would not provide the benefits the companies had first anticipated, Sega said in a statement.

Sega, famous for Sonic the Hedgehog, announced last month that it was studying a similar offer from rival Namco — a proposal that would create the biggest video-game maker in Japan.

Sega spokeswoman Nana Ishizawa said negotiations with Namco were being carried on separately and no decision has been made.

Trading of Sega and Sammy shares were temporarily suspended on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Thursday morning.

Media reports have speculated that Sega's potential suitors also include big names like software giant Microsoft Corp., which makes the Xbox (news - web sites) game console, and Electronic Arts, a Redwood City, Calif.-based game maker.

Once a major pioneer in its field, Sega has watched its brand image lose luster in recent years as gaming became dominated by Japanese rival Sony Corp (news - web sites).'s PlayStation 2 (news - web sites).

Sammy makes pachinko, a popular vertical pinball game played in parlors across Japan. The company is trying to expand into video games.

Sega posted a 17.8 billion yen ($149 million) loss last fiscal year, its fifth straight annual loss, but expects to return to profitability in the fiscal year ending in March. Sammy reported a 23.9 billion yen ($201 million) profit in fiscal 2001, while Namco's profits totaled 2 billion yen ($17 million).
 
I think in a perfect world I'd like to see Sega shack up with MS, get unlimited funding, and full artistic freedom. Now THAT would be cool :D (but, ofcourse, would never happen).
 
In a perfect world they would make SEGAMCO :)

I guess we don't have the same idea of a 'perfect world', in my perfect world, MS doesn't exist, and BeOS is the most widely used OS...
 
Ingenu said:
In a perfect world they would make SEGAMCO :)

I guess we don't have the same idea of a 'perfect world', in my perfect world, MS doesn't exist, and BeOS is the most widely used OS...

Atleast mine was loosely rooted in reality ;)

Hey man, anything for Rez 2 (or Rez:BPM as I ingeniously thought of!)
 
brrr ..freaking reality :oops: :)

if MS is to sold us world futur entertainement,they should go for chemical pills (drugs) for next-next-gen (oops ,they are already heavily investing in that sector .... :oops: )
:LOL:
 
and moreover Konami's and Sega's games mostly dont overlap....

Konami = MGS (Stealth Adventure)/ SH (Horror) / Winning Elevan (Soccor)

Sega = Platform/Fighting/Racing/Puzzle/Music/FPS/RPG/Action etc etc
 
so far i'm pretty impressed with Sammy's work... Guilty gear x (especially X2) are pretty good games. actually they are VERY good games, superior in pretty much all areas to anything coming out of Capcom's 2D brains....
but merging with Sega.... mmmm... don't know how would that benefit either of them... i mean it would surely benefit Sammy, but why would Sega want to go to a pretty much unknown company... better stick to the big guns who are VERY willing to pay a LOT of money, which they really need....
 
CSK may like the turnaround they've seen and be willing to float SEGA some more time as an independent. SEGA could raise their stock price naturally over a few quarters.
 
IMHO, SEGA has yet to produce games that had become smash hits (in terms of sales), I suppose the Dreamcast and the pirates (and those so-called SEGA fans who only buy pirated copies or download from Internet, but responded vigorously on the downfall of SEGA) have hurt SEGA badly but I think the company is not good at making money than feeding the fans (hardcore, minority) with the games they like.

I personally don't like to see Sammy or Namco to merge with SEGA (for sure not the damn EA nor the evil MS), I'd rather see some radical change in SEGA in the sales and marketing front in order to perform well to bring better inflow of cash.

edit: added the stress on so-called SEGA fans, I knew many of them, they simply piss me off
 
maskrider said:
IMHO, SEGA has yet to produce games that had become smash hits (in terms of sales), I suppose the Dreamcast and the pirates (and those so-called SEGA fans who only buy pirated copies or download from Internet, but responded vigorously on the downfall of SEGA) have hurt SEGA badly but I think the company is not good at making money than feeding the fans (hardcore, minority) with the games they like.

Sonic Adventure 2: Battle and Super Monkey Ball sold very well on GCN, and MegaCollection has done pretty well so far too.
 
Tagrineth said:
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle and Super Monkey Ball sold very well on GCN, and MegaCollection has done pretty well so far too.

But looks like only in North America, and they are a minority of the games only, other games mostly average or sub-par (even the famous VF4/VF4 evo). I hope SEGA can pull away from the trough.

In the place I live, SEGA games are talked about, but not bought that much.
 
I don't think EA or MS are going to buy SEGA. Their philosophies are too different, especially in the case of EA. EA will release any crap that they can market, it doesnt matter how poor the game, if it can sell copies they will make it. SEGA is the exact opposite. Sometimes you get the feeling that they are trying to sell as few copies as possible, like releasing Shenmue II and Panzer Dragoon Orta for Xbox.
 
BoddoZerg said:
I don't think EA or MS are going to buy SEGA. Their philosophies are too different, especially in the case of EA. EA will release any crap that they can market, it doesnt matter how poor the game, if it can sell copies they will make it. SEGA is the exact opposite. Sometimes you get the feeling that they are trying to sell as few copies as possible, like releasing Shenmue II and Panzer Dragoon Orta for Xbox.

r u saying that anything coming out from Sega is a piece of art because they will never release a POS????
oh please....
Shinobi was dreadful.
Any outing on PS2 apart from VF4 was pretty underwhelming. Even the acclaimed REZ... should be in the books for *How to make a short game look like art*...
 
london-boy said:
r u saying that anything coming out from Sega is a piece of art because they will never release a POS????
oh please....
Shinobi was dreadful.
Any outing on PS2 apart from VF4 was pretty underwhelming. Even the acclaimed REZ... should be in the books for *How to make a short game look like art*...

IMHO, Shinobi is as good as Devil May Cry 2 or Chaos Legion (or as boring as), where Chaos Legion has much better graphics comparing to Shinobi and DMC2.

I don't know why I keep buying VF games but I just keep buying them, although I don't play them much. Nostalgia ?
 
maskrider said:
london-boy said:
r u saying that anything coming out from Sega is a piece of art because they will never release a POS????
oh please....
Shinobi was dreadful.
Any outing on PS2 apart from VF4 was pretty underwhelming. Even the acclaimed REZ... should be in the books for *How to make a short game look like art*...

IMHO, Shinobi is as good as Devil May Cry 2 or Chaos Legion (or as boring as), where Chaos Legion has much better graphics comparing to Shinobi and DMC2.

I don't know why I keep buying VF games but I just keep buying them, although I don't play them much. Nostalgia ?



i thought it was much worse than DMC2, at least DMC2 has a good presentation... i bought VF4, but just could not get into it... too compliacted, too sophisticated for someone who only used to play VF (the first one) once a month at the arcades...
 
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